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Reason to ditch renders and rerender before outputing>?
Im about to output a project that was shot DVCPRO50, but also has DV footage mixed in that was rendered into the DVCPRO50 timeline….the show is done, and I am about to output my DVCPRO50 timeline into a file to be layed off to digibeta at a facility. Im wondering if there would be any reason or way to ditch all the render files and have it rerender everything, just wondering if when you work you try things, and render, change, render again ect….everytime you render is it jacking up the picture or does it render from the original file so you dont keep messing up picture quality over and over? I think I know the answer that it doesnt work like that, but I just want to make sure Im putting out the best quality…..thks…..also should I render in YUV high or just normal>? thks…
Paul
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Unless you’re having anomalies with the rendered picture and have the idea that the render files might be corrupted – then I don’t see a need for trashing your render files on the timeline. You are more than welcome to however. And in answer to your question on if there’s a way to do that – yeah it is easy. Just go to Tools > Render Manager and check the boxes in the Remove column for the sequences that you want to delete the render files from.
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You’re over-thinking Paul… WYSIWYG What you see is what you get. If the timeline looks good and plays nicely you’re set. You might consider doing an Audio Mixdown before outputting to tape (look in the Render Only tab), but other than you’re good to go.
David Roth Weiss
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Edited for retartedness.
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LOL, my bad David – his name is Paul too! That threw me off.
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[mr.escandon] “LOL, my bad David – his name is Paul too! That threw me off.”
A classic!!! That’s the Internet for ya…
And Jeeze, after I gave you kudos the other day for better explaining something I’d hastily written too… Have you had too much caffiene today???
David Roth Weiss
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There’s no particular reason to do this, however if we have a project we’ve been editing for longer than a week, then yes, we do use the Render Manager to ditch all the renders and re-render the entire timeline.
With longer projects we’re always rendering, changing, rendering, changing like crazy in the timeline. So when we’re finally done and ready to lay off to tape, I like to trash all those renders and just do one nice clean pass of renders before laying off to tape. Especially when the timeline is over 10 minutes.
Tools > Render Manager and you simply select the project you’re working on to trash all the renders. Then you simply do a Render All on your timeline.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Walter,
What’s the thinking behind this? Do you get better disk performance? Peace of mind?
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You’d save disk space and have longer continuous files. Both of which increase performance. The render files can hog space over time. Think of it this way. If you render a 5 minute effect, a 5 minute render file is created. If you then make a change to 4 min and 59 seconds of that effect, you’ll only have to re-render the 4 minutes and 59 seconds. However, then entire first render file is kept JUST to play back that 1 second of video that wasn’t needed to be re-rendered.
So it definitely saves space. Performance is likely increased, but whether it makes a difference is debatable.
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For future reference.
I want to add to this that sometimes if you uncheck filters in sequence settings>render control. And in your user preferences you have it set to auto-render or you somehow rendered your timeline with the filters box unchecked. It will create rendered timeline files that do not match your desired timeline because it was rendered without filters.
It is very easy to see in mine since the greenscreen pops up in certain sections and this is how I learned about this bug but if you just have slight color correction etc you may not notice it.
So another reason to rerender fresh is if you turn off the filter while you are working your TL. I do it because Primatte Keyer Pro is so unbearably slow it it makes all my actions extremely slow.
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