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  • FCP Leopard Experience

    Posted by Chris Paul on October 31, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    I have upgraded 3 FCP machines so far with a different result each time. One was flawless, one made Motion unusable and one lost my keychain settings. Re-installing FC Studio fixed Motion. I manually re-entered the lost passwords into Keychain only to later discover that MacFixit has several fixes that would have saved me the trouble.

    ATTO and Blackmagic have released Leopard drivers for my fiberchannel card(Celerity-42ES) and video card (Multibridge Pro). Both are working without trouble.

    The pluses so far are that a lot of issues have been fixed, such as burning DVD’s from the Finder, Boris RED redraw errors are gone, and the Finder no longer freezes when a networked volume is disconnected. The minuses so far are that the new Finder is ugly and hard to read and Spotlight no longer groups search results into folders.

    I am really looking forward to new apps hinted at by people like Alex Linsey. Apparently there is new plumbing in Leopard that will enable cool new apps and plugins for us video folks.

    Chris Paul
    POV

    Mark Palmos replied 18 years, 6 months ago 8 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Paul Dickin

    October 31, 2007 at 8:01 pm

    [Post Office Video] “Apparently there is new plumbing in Leopard that will enable cool new apps and plugins for us video folks.”
    Hi
    Like a fully working FCStudio for instance… 😉

    Google draws a blank with Alex Linsey, and Alex Lindsey of Pixel Corps seems to impart his wisdom to a closed forum, so I’m none the wiser…

    However drawing several strands from this and other web sites together I feel it behoves us not to be too gung ho about Apple’s ability to boldly go where no man has been before. 🙁

    What Leopard seems to be about is developing software technologies that were built into Tiger, but not fully realised. Probably the kerfuffle of OS X 10.4.10 and QuickTime 7.2 were caused by the need to pre-release Leopard’s underpinnings to get FCS, Logic Studio, the iPhone, Safari beta 3 et al out there to support this summer’s new products whilst Leopard was still being finalised.

    Lots of us more cautious Mac users aren’t playing that game, although as a long term Mac user I’m fascinated by the trials and tribulations of the crew of the Starship Apple Enterprise and its 5 months>5 year misssion 😉

    I went from the Graphite Dual 450MHz era all the way to the 1.25GHz MDD era without upgrading because I didn’t feel it ‘in my waters’ that it was right.
    My currrent PCI-X non-liquid-cooled G5s will see me through to the introduction of Penryn SSE4 Macs (ie an architecture that Otelini developed after Steve commited to Intel. Next year?) for exactly the same reason – the current lot aren’t ‘quite right’.

    My problem, I admit it. But its also Steve’s bottom-line problem, because I don’t propose to upgrade my old FireWire iPod as I only use it as a portable self-powered hard drive, and I will never be buying an iPhone until I can have one on my £10-of-calls-for-3-months tarif (incoming calls don’t cost me). Sure I paid £39 each to upgrade my FCS licences to UB, but that’s about it until they release another killer GarageBand Jam pack.

    FCS needs a major infra-structure rethink if its seriously going to take on Avid at their own game on any other attribute than give-away costs. Mac OS X needs to be beefed up to provide the core database services that a multi-simultaneous-user editing application is going to need in the future.

    So to get back to the web page info that has caught my attention:-
    1. https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/960509
    “Basically, no MetaSAN for Leopard for a while. Up to 90 days. And it’s Apple’s fault according to them (which I don’t doubt). “
    https://www.tiger-technology.com/article.php?story=leopard

    2. “The most logical reason that I can think of for Apple’s refusal (thus far) to publish the source code to the x86 version of the Mac OS X kernel is that the kernel shipping today in the x86 versions of Mac OS X Tiger is an evolutionary dead end, and therefore not worth the effort to pretty up and publish.”
    https://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/5

    Well events haven’t (so far) born out that line of speculation, so we’re seemingly in for more of the same – more of the shortlived FCP 5.1.3 scenario, though presumably the reason why we haven’t seen a maintenance update of FCS so far is that some beta testing might be going on… 😉

    And the next page of that ArsTechnica article has some gloomy predictions about the timescale of Adobe’s (and Microsoft) need to rewrite all their legacy Carbon code…
    https://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/6

    Being as I’m a simple end-user sort of guy who doesn’t understand any of the finer points of Objective C (or any other computer coding) I’m hunkering down for the long haul – the Ars article puts it at 2012 before these things – whatever they are 😉 are sorted – and who am I to disagree.

    Well, Media Manager is one of the ‘things’, and simultaneous project access for multiple users is another, quite basic, requirement. And the handling of MXF, or DPX, or any other sort of file-wrapper that QuickTime can’t quite cope with natively at the moment. XDCAM proxies, anybody else’s metadata really…

    So while Alex Linsey (sic) is enthusing about Leopard’s new core animation whiz, or whatever, I’m sitting it out waiting for a new version of FCS that says it does what it ought to do (needs to do) on the tin.

    /rambling.rant

    Of course being a Mac fan boy I’ll cave in and buy the lot a few months down the line 🙂

  • Aaron Zander

    October 31, 2007 at 8:44 pm

    [PaulD] “Of course being a Mac fan boy I’ll cave in and buy the lot a few months down the line 🙂 “
    im sorry to degrade this place to the world of warcraft forums over on the blizzard site but:

    LOL

    that about the best damned thing I’ve ever seen to wrap up why we, as mac consumers, buy the products we buy repeatedly. why there will always be some one buy the newest ipod etc.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 31, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    [PaulD] “the Ars article puts it at 2012”

    Well that’s conveniently located at the end of the Mayan calendar. At least everything will work right before we all croak and turn it over to the machines.

  • Paul Dickin

    October 31, 2007 at 10:07 pm

    Hi
    Lol!
    “The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief… that a cataclysm will take place on or about 21 December 2012.”
    Ending with ‘One more thing…’ 🙂

  • Chris Paul

    October 31, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    1) I apologize about the typo in Alex Lindsey’s Name.
    2) Alex speaks to a lot of folks for free, on the MacBreak podcasts for example.
    3) I think that small independent developers like DV Garage and Noise Industries are more likely to provide improvements to FCP in the short term than Apple so that is why I was happy to hear that they are getting better development tools.
    4) Had too much coffee?

    Chris Paul
    POV

  • Paul Dickin

    October 31, 2007 at 10:48 pm

    [Post Office Video] “4) Had too much coffee?”
    Hi
    No. Rather I’ve been out of kilter today at my inability to be of any meaningful assistance with yesterday’s Mark Palmos thread. His crash-before-deadline experience is every editor’s worst nightmare.
    Sorry for picking on your thread to vent my frustration… 🙁

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 1, 2007 at 2:48 am

    😀

  • Stuart Simpson

    November 1, 2007 at 11:02 am

    [Post Office Video] “the new Finder is ugly and hard to read”

    You really think so? I think quite the opposite, list view especially is much easier to read.

    -Simmie
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  • Walter Biscardi

    November 1, 2007 at 11:12 am

    [Simmie] “You really think so? I think quite the opposite, list view especially is much easier to read.”

    I have to agree with that. New Finder lays out the information better for me.

    My only disappointment so far i that the 3D Dock does not work on the sides, it has to be on the bottom to be in 3D.

    As pointed out in another thread, the Mosaic Screen Saver rocks!

  • Zak Mussig

    November 1, 2007 at 1:47 pm

    Walter,

    The dock on the side was changed last-minute. It was 3D in all but the last seed or two, but people hated it so much that Apple changed it.

    I tend to agree. The 3D dock looks nice, and I’m sure lots of people will have in-store experiences with it like I had with magnification in the 10.0.0 dock before I even knew what Mac OS 10 was, but it isn’t useful. First thing I’ll do when I get Leopard installed is use the little terminal command to make the dock on the bottom look like the one on the side.

    I’m sure that the same command could be changed to give you 3D on the side if you’d like it.

    Zak

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