• Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy

  Problems capturing from Sony J H-3

  Posted by Lucas Howe on August 21, 2007 at 1:28 pm

  Hi guys,

  I have about 30 hours of material for a project and I am trying to digitize for an offline.

  I am trying to capture footage shot on HDCam at 23.98.

  We want to offline it with pulldown so we can make DVDs, etc throughout the edit.

  The deck is a SONY JH-3. We are pulling down within the deck settings so it is sending an SDI signal out.

  We are capturing through a Blackmagic card.

  FCP version 6.0

  Our capture is set at DVC Pro HD (60i).

  We are able to run about 45 seconds before it loses TC, drops 4 to 5 frames, and then continues with a new clip.

  TC on the source tapes is fine — we checked it. Something is happening in the settings or connections.

  Any idea what is set up wrong?

  Thank you in advance!

  Lucas

  Jeremy Garchow replied 19 years ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  Mark Raudonis

  August 21, 2007 at 2:02 pm

  Mr. Gorilla,

  What’s the “system frequency” setting on your JH3?

  (Item # 013 in the set up menu?

  That needs to be set to “ON” in order to enable the deck to adjust to your desired setting. Then, you need to change it and do a RESTART on the deck.

  Do you have the operations manual?
  It can be found here: https://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/docs/manuals/jh1-jh3%20ops%20manual.pdf

  Good luck.

  Mark
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  Lucas Howe

  August 21, 2007 at 2:09 pm

  Hi Mark,

  Thanks a lot! We actually had switched that and still no joy.
  What our solution is now is we have just removed the pulldown
  and are working with prorez.
  So our offline will now be 24. Ah well.

  Thanks for your help!

  Lucas
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  David Roth weiss

  August 21, 2007 at 3:23 pm

  [LittleGorilla] “We want to offline it with pulldown so we can make DVDs, etc throughout the edit.”

  What’s your thought process here? DVDs from progressive sources are no big deal.

  David Roth Weiss
  Director/Editor
  David Weiss Productions, Inc.
  Los Angeles

  POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY
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  Lucas Howe

  August 21, 2007 at 4:27 pm

  Hi David,

  From my experience if you want to make a quick DVD without hours of reformatting it’s always nice to be able to spit out a source compression quicktime and drop it into a program like toast for a quick screener. (film will be about 2.5 hrs)
  If the offline materials are already NTSC there’s no long reformatting or funny frame rate issues.
  If there is a nice fast way to be able to get NTSC DVDs from FCP I would love to know!
  Usually I send these things out. Do you have any advice?

  Thanks!
  Lucas
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  Jeremy Garchow

  August 21, 2007 at 5:48 pm

  Yes, encode your Mpeg2 @ 23.98 using compressor, burn the dvd and away you go.

  The DVD player will add pulldown for you if necessary.
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  David Roth weiss

  August 21, 2007 at 5:49 pm

  Lucas,

  The problem you’re having is with Toast — it cannot properly handle 24p material. I just tested it. However, DVDSP can… Unbeknownst to many users, DVDSP is capable of both encoding and burning fast down & dirty DVDs from FCP QT files, just as easily as Toast. I’m working on a short tutorial to explain just how its done. Hopefully it will be completed in the next day or two. DVPSP does this much better than Toast BTW, and even faster… It adds the proper pull down or the proper flag, whichever is necessary, making progressive display quite smoothly. Meanwhile, Toast gets it all wrong…

  David

  David Roth Weiss
  Director/Editor
  David Weiss Productions, Inc.
  Los Angeles

  POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY
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  David Roth weiss

  August 21, 2007 at 5:54 pm

  [JeremyG] “Yes, encode your Mpeg2 @ 23.98 using compressor, burn the dvd and away you go.

  The DVD player will add pulldown for you if necessary.”

  Jeremy,

  Agreed, Compressor will do the job properly, Toast will not, but using DVDSP to encode and burn is a great one-step method to make terrific down and dirty DVDs for client viewers that also handles the pull down properly.

  David

  David Roth Weiss
  Director/Editor
  David Weiss Productions, Inc.
  Los Angeles

  POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY
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  Lucas Howe

  August 21, 2007 at 6:14 pm

  Thanks to David and Jeremy!

  I always leaned on Toast for this kind of thing and often suffered for it.
  Will definitely use DVDSP and/or compressor for the quick screeners.

  Quick question which is on/off topic.

  I have a film which is shot largely in cross processed 35mm — the colors are really wild and saturated. (though still legal) I found that DVDSP would throw them off but Toast would keep them true.

  Is there some kind of automated color management with DVDSP? If so is it possible to turn it off? Someone told me that the earlier DVDSP version 2 didn’t have this issue.

  Thanks so much for the time and the help guys! Really appreciate it!

  Best,
  Lucas
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  Jeremy Garchow

  August 21, 2007 at 9:15 pm

  There are filters within Compressor to help control gamma/saturation and things of that nature.

  Jeremy

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