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“VTR OK” but no TimeCode ??
Posted by Mark Palmos on August 8, 2007 at 1:34 pmHello all,
After almost two weeks of FCP, I’m amazed at how many problems I have had… the latest is my DSR1500p is connected to the LHe breakout box serial port via plain old RS422 serial cable. FCP says VTR OK and I can control the deck and capture, but the timecode readout and that which is captured is clip timecode, not source timecode.
In project prefs, it is set to Source Timecode. It is as if FCP has a “capture timecode” switch which is off at the moment.
AJA VTR Xchange app shows the correct timecode, but when I capture and import that clip to FCP, FCP only sees clip TC??
Absurd.
Please help if you can,
Thanks
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Walter Biscardi
August 8, 2007 at 1:48 pmWhat Easy Setup are you using? Have never seen FCP not capture tape timecode here.
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Mark Palmos
August 8, 2007 at 4:09 pmHi Walter,
Easy Setup is set to Format:PAL Rate25fps Use: AJA KONA LH PAL 8 Bit to DV and in the details below it says device control is Aja Kona LH: PAL Sony VTR…I will restart and give it another bash.
Ta,
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Walter Biscardi
August 8, 2007 at 4:16 pm[mark palmos] “Easy Setup is set to Format:PAL Rate25fps Use: AJA KONA LH PAL 8 Bit to DV and in the details below it says device control is Aja Kona LH: PAL Sony VTR…”
Wait, if this is a DVCAM deck, why are you converting the footage from 8bit to DV again? You’re just recompressing the footage a second time.
If you want to edit in 8bit, then choose a PAL 8bit Uncompressed setting.
If you want to edit in DV, then use the DV-PAL preset instead of the Kona preset. You can still use the Kona to monitor your edit.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html
Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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Mark Palmos
August 8, 2007 at 4:34 pmHi Walter,
The deck does not have firewire output, only component… the PAL DV setting is only for firewire input and control (afaik).but there’s a large woops, after restarting the deck control went completely – so I re-seated the cables and hey presto! Sorry for the false alarm and thanks for the help!
Mark.
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Walter Biscardi
August 8, 2007 at 4:41 pm[mark palmos] “The deck does not have firewire output, only component… the PAL DV setting is only for firewire input and control (afaik)”
Ah, well I’ve never used that deck, glad the cable reseating was all it needed.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Broadcast and independent productions.All Things Apple Podcast! https://cowcast.creativecow.net/all_things_apple/index.html
Read my blog! https://blogs.creativecow.net/WalterBiscardi
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David Roth weiss
August 8, 2007 at 7:57 pm[mark palmos] “After almost two weeks of FCP, I’m amazed at how many problems I have had…”
Mark,
After 30-days that ceases. You will get your brain wrapped around FCP and you’ll be a better editor for it. I was cutting within an hour after installing both hardwrae and software, but it took a solid month of total emersion to really get my head around it.
You will find that FCP forces you to connect all the dots rather than doing it all automatically for you. This is because its actually more versatile, not less versatile than the systems we’ve used before.
Knowing you, you’ll soon be able to look under the hood and pretty much diagnose anything that comes your way with your eyes closed.
David
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY
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Mark Palmos
August 8, 2007 at 9:02 pm[David Roth Weiss] “After 30-days that ceases.”
hey david,
dont you wanna come visit for a couple of weeks and be my personal tutor? actually OSX has been much harder to get to use than FCP… so much for mac being intuititve, that Finder is so lame compared to Windows Explorer – ah well. I took about 45 miniutes trying to work out how to delete some clips on my desktop… and was astonished that you cannot cut and paste clips using finder, only copy and paste (unless this osx newbie is missing something here!)i may put a post on the edit*ors forum as a first impression of fcp and osx after xp and premier cs3… so far i am very impressed with fcp and its depth and maturity. OSX is another story, I keep on finding it frustrating and limiting.
catcha later mate
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Jeremy Garchow
August 8, 2007 at 9:16 pm[mark palmos] ” ah well. I took about 45 miniutes trying to work out how to delete some clips on my desktop”
Man, that is so simple it’s scary. Don’t blame the os, blame you. A drag and drop is all that’s needed and easy, then there’s keyboard shortcuts and mouse click. It’s all right there, macs even now have a right click for ya.
What else about the finder? What is limiting about it?
There’s an OSX forum on the cow here too.
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Shane Ross
August 8, 2007 at 9:45 pmPeople who were raised on Windows fine OSX difficult…because they are still in the WINDOWS mind. People who use OSX who have had NO PRIOR OS experience find it VERY easy.
I have been a Mac guy all my computing life, and when I get on a windows machine I am completely lost. I find that IT is very backwards…unintuitive.
COming into an OS with your mindset on another OS makes it difficult to do things…at first. You’ll get it.
CUT AND PASTE CLIPS ON THE FINDER LEVEL? Who does that? Drag and drop…then trash the originals when you are SURE the copy went well.
Diff’rent Strokes…
Shane

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Mark Palmos
August 8, 2007 at 9:46 pmHi Jeremy
yeah, sure, i am very new to osx so im sure there are plenty things i am yet to discover, like a Finder replacement maybe! I really wonder why apple decided to protect people from the real workings of the computer… there are about 10 things I have written down, but they are on my mac at work, but a few of them are:
why does the delete key not delete in finder? apple backspace is not an intuitive command, and dragging files to a trash can that acts drunk when you move towards it is not much fun.
i would expect a powerful os like osx to allow users to see actual paths, paths written in text which you can copy and paste in any file open requester or any other computer fields to take you immediately to that place.
why cant one cut and paste files in finder?
“applications” in finder are often actually folders containing a bunch of files, why does apple hide the contents from users?
in general, though osx is very sophisticated in many ways, apple tend to dumb down things and its what i find really irritating about the interface. OH yes, the text on screen is fuzzy!! I have tried two sets of two monitors (none made by apple) and the ATI 1900 card makes the desktop and application text a bit fuzzy in places, almost asif the screen resolution is incompatible with the monitors.
gotta sleep now, but if you are really interested i will post a link to my full list once i post it on the edit*ors forum
catcha later
mark.
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