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Reference movies-NOT!
Today I’m trying to make reference movies from two D1 sequences, unchecking the self-contained box, but FCP is making self-contained movies anyway. A half-hour show took 2 hours and a one hour show is in the process of taking 4.
I stopped it after the 2 hour fiasco and trashed my prefs to attempt to make the one hour reference movie, but it is still chugging away.
This is FCP Studio 2 on a G5 2 gig dual with 4.5 gigs of RAM. I was supposed to have DVDs in FedEx tonight, I missed the freakin’ deadline and boy am I pissed. This should not do this!
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Sounds like you don’t have your sequences rendered. If you have ‘full’ rt effects that aren’t rendered, FCP (or any program really) needs to bake in these effects before exporting.
Jeremy
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It was a moment EXACTLY like this that prompted to to consider, then buy, the Kona LH card and a DVD Recorder. The Kona LH became useful in many other ways (my previous card was a decklink HD, which only had SDI I/O)…but the ability to send a composite signal to a DVD recorder where I play the timeline and record onto a DVD…invaluable. Made a 6-9 hour process….remember, you still have to use Compressor to compress the DVD after you export that ref movie…take about an hour 40 min…for a 90 min show.
But yes…It sounds like your timeline is not rendered…or if it is an HDV timeline, it will take this long as well.
Shane
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Shane,
Since I posted here’s what I found, I neglected to mention I had nested the RENDERED timeline so that I could apply the TC generator to match the TC that is on the Betas I made for the client. The DVDs I need to make are for the client to pick selects at their leisure in their own office.
Although the time code filters don’t need rendering, it seems that they and nesting were forcing the self-contained movie.
So, I took the 1 hour timeline out of the nest and made a ref movie in about 30 seconds, and just put it in compressor and used an in point to make it’s TC generator start at the right place, past the bars and slate. It’s working right now.
But on another note, I already HAVE an LH and a DVD recorder. You might remember last week I asked about the TC feature in the Kona control panel, as I was frustrated I could not make a TC dub from my Canon A1 direct to DVD. Can you elaborate on how to use these to make TC DVDs?
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[Chris Poisson] “Although the time code filters don’t need rendering, it seems that they and nesting were forcing the self-contained movie”
Yes. That’s it. Although they don’t need rendering within FCP, they do need to be rendered (or baked in …as far as making a Quicktime movie.
If you are using FCS2 Compressor 3 now has a timecode filter you can apply…it will add the burn in TC during the encode. No need to do this in FCP.
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[Chris Poisson] “Since I posted here’s what I found, I neglected to mention I had nested the RENDERED timeline so that I could apply the TC generator to match the TC that is on the Betas I made for the client. The DVDs I need to make are for the client to pick selects at their leisure in their own office.
Although the time code filters don’t need rendering, it seems that they and nesting were forcing the self-contained movie.”
This is why I never nest. Your timeline will be rendered, but once you nest it and add the TC filter, you’ll need to render it ALLL OVER AGAIN. I export REF movies, reimport those, then add the TC filter, then export ANOTHER Ref movie. This one will take a little longer, but it will still be fast.
[Chris Poisson] “But on another note, I already HAVE an LH and a DVD recorder. You might remember last week I asked about the TC feature in the Kona control panel, as I was frustrated I could not make a TC dub from my Canon A1 direct to DVD. Can you elaborate on how to use these to make TC DVDs?”
Sorry, I don’t recall, as I monitor WAY too many forums…and answer way too many questions while still finding time to actually work.
Does the camera have a composite out that allows you to see the on screen data? You can use that…but then cover a LOT of your image in doing so. This is going from camera to DVD recorder.
From FCP, you can export a ref movie, then use the AJA TV app to output with window code. Make sure to turn on the TIMECODE option in the AJA Control Panel. It is one of the button options. Or you can export the ref movie, reimport that, add the TC reader, then just play that out thru the Kona to the DVD recorder. I do this because I like to position the TC reader to the upper right of the screen.
Shane
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Hey Shane,
We think alike, while waiting for your answer I exported a ref movie and brought THAT back in and put the TC filter on it, it took about a third of the time to render out as a nest. So good advice, thanks.
I also did the TC in Compressor just to try it out, so thanks John too.
And, thanks for the AJA info.
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