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  • Multi Cam offline to online..

    Posted by Michael Lynch on May 25, 2007 at 12:12 am

    Just a question – no emergency here.

    I do about 4 of these projects per year:

    I’ve got a 60 minute shoot with 2 cameras = 120 minutes captured footage. Due to space restrictions I capture offline jpeg.

    Make rough edit – now there is approximately 50 minutes of video being used in the timeline, audio is from one of the original tapes via wireless.

    Ready to online – oops, it wants to capture 100 minutes at DV quality.
    Media manage. OK, now it wants to capture 75 minutes. What? I’m only using 50 minutes – should be about 12 – 13 gigs.

    I think the problem has to do with the audio – FCP wants to recapture the entire video segment from cam A with the good audio and then only the video portions from cam B.

    I’ve output the audio as an AIFF file, and then deleted and media managed. Now it only wants to capture the 50 minutes, BUT it’s looking at 100+ edits, thus 100+ clips to capture. This does make sense, but that’s a heck of a lot of clips to capture, and then I’m hoping the audio will align (it SHOULD).

    Any suggestions? Or is that the way it is?
    I’ve got a TB on order so may be less of a problem in the future.

    Thanks for any suggestions.

    -Mike

    G5 – 2GIG DUAL – 2GIG RAM
    FCP; AE; PS; DSP

    Dan Riley replied 18 years, 12 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    May 25, 2007 at 12:20 am

    [Michael Lynch] “Due to space restrictions I capture offline jpeg.”

    Mike,

    500gb hard drives are only $150. Certainly your time spent doing an offline/online has to worth more to you than a fractional share of that very inexpensive hard drive space.

  • Dan Riley

    May 25, 2007 at 1:36 am

    Yeah, me too David.
    I don’t get it.
    2 hours of footage, times 2?
    And you are outputting in DV?
    Why the heck did you not capture in DV to start with?
    52 gigs of space?
    Oh My God!
    The Horror!

    I do at least 4 camera SD multicams a year (not my only jobs)
    and we shoot for two days and have 12 hours times 4 cameras to capture,
    simultaneous timecode. I offline with DV then uprez to uncompressed.
    FCP works fine for this, but going forward with HD, DVDPRO HD
    at 24p, I WILL NOT uprez anymore. I will capture DVCPRO HD
    at 24p and finish that way. WHY?, because the storage for that codec
    is only a bit more than twice DV. Imagine that. Now I don’t have to uprez anymore.

    Storage today is dirt cheap. Your time may not be.

    Dan

  • Michael Lynch

    May 25, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    Guys – I’ve got multiple projects going at once – one of them is 50 gigs at the moment, another is 30, etc… doesn’t take long to use up 500 gigs. I’ve got a number of external drives, but I’ve had problems editing from them in the past as far as keeping up with the video – I haven’t even tried it on the newest drives – maybe I will this time.
    Did you miss the fact that I’ve got a TB drive on the way????

    Neither of you bothered to answer my initial question, which wasn’t “do I need a bigger drive”…DUH!

    G5 – 2GIG DUAL – 2GIG RAM
    FCP; AE; PS; DSP

  • Dan Riley

    May 25, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    When you MM a project for uprez, FCP seems to work differently than AVID.
    FCP doesn’t record just the audio, when all you need is the audio from a clip.
    I’m not absolutely sure of this but that seems to be what I’ve seen in the past.
    My projects during the offline are so large that once I do the MM for uprez,
    what FCP is capturing is so much less material that I don’t really notice
    for sure if it’s doubling up some of the clips.

    If you have drive space issues, you certainly can create an AIFF
    audio file of the sequence, then only capture the video and that’s what you did.
    The only issue with doing this is, you won’t have handles in your AIFF file.
    Another idea would be to MM twice, once for video and once for audio.
    But obviously this is double the work and double the capturing time.

    There may be other options. I don’t admit to being a MM expert,
    but I have done quite a few uprezzes with it. Sometime they go great
    and sometimes they are big pain in a butt.

    Dan

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