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converting 59.94 to 23.98
Hello,
I have a video shot at the ever so annoying 59.94 frame/field rate onto p2 cards, edited on a 59.94 timeline. I need to export it as a 23.98 movie, but it only seems to work on some shots, and some of the shots look funny, kind of like what a film shot looks like when you digitize from a non A frame frame. I am guessing this depends on the frame I cut on from the original 59.94 footage.
Does anyone know how to make this export work properly throughout the whole video?
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Need more info.
It sounds like you shot it at 60i and not 60P. Is that right? Is it 1080i?
Was it shot in 24P (meaning it has a 2:3 pulldown in it)? From what you’ve described it sounds like it. Can you verify it?
If you have 60i footage with a 2:3 pulldown in it, you’ll need to remove the pulldown from each clip instead of just exporting the whole sequence to 23.98.
You might try importing the P2 footage into FCP again and having it remove duplicate frames.
-Russ
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I’m experiencing the same —
How do you get FCP to remove the duplicate frames? -
You need to import it from the original P2 folder again (the CONTENTS folder on the P2 card). Though something tells me that some of you might have discarded that information after you imported your clips to FCP.
NOTE: P2 CONTENTS folder is like your tape master. You wouldn’t ever throw a tape away because it was digitized?
So in the P2 Import window, click on the advanced gear looking button on the top middle of the window. Select Preferences. Select Remove Advance Pulldown and Duplicate Frames.
Give that a shot.
If you don’t have the P2 CONTENTS folder, then you’re going to have to try to figure out something in Cinema Tools or the Frame Rate Converter Tool. Let me know if you get to that point.
Really, the first thing you need to tell us though is if your footage has a pulldown. If so, what pulldown is it?
-Russ
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Thanks for the info, but it won’t work because the footage I’m working with originated on JVC HD100 cameras, not the Panasonics.
I imported the footage into FCP via AJA Kona Lhe into a DVCPRO HD project file — 59.94. I’ve been told this is the most efficient way to work with this format and have gotten great results in the past. (I just never needed to make a dvd using this codec)
The final project looks great on tape, but lousy on DVD. Since I’m not impresssed with Compressor, I use BitVice’s encoder, but BitVice isn’t compatible with 59.94. It works great with 23.98 and 24 frame rates. So, that is the overall reason I’m trying to convert my 59.94 into 23.98 — to be able to have BitVice encode it so I can use it in DVD SP.
I’ve tried using Cinema Tools, but with no luck. My project is progressive, not interlaced.
I’ve also tried dropping the 59.94 project into 23.98, 24, and 29.97 sequences, but again, the footage looks poor.
I haven’t tried the frame rate converter yet. I’ll give that a try.
If you have any other thoughts, I’d sure welcome them.
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I’m looking for a similar solution and am puzzled as yet. I have 720P 59.94 that doesn’t look good when encoded to SD MPEG-2 29.97 progressive. It appears that both of the 59.94 frames are retained in the 29.97 frames, causing an ugly jagginess on certain moving objects in the frame when viewed on an interlaced monitor. What I need is to remove half of the 60P frames and then duplicate the rest to end up with 30P. I do have a Pioneer DVD player/recorder that makes the DVD look OK when it is set to Real Cinema mode. It must be removing pulldown in that mode? I’m hoping we both get an answer from your post.
-Tom -
[Red Eagle] “I’m working with originated on JVC HD100 cameras, not the Panasonics. “
there are settings in FCP 5.1 for the 720p24 HDV compression from this camera
“The final project looks great on tape, but lousy on DVD.”
is that because you are looking at it on your computer monitor? have you played it on a real tv?“Since I’m not impresssed with Compressor, I use BitVice’s encoder, but BitVice isn’t compatible with 59.94. It works great with 23.98 and 24 frame rates.”
then open the file in CT and “conform” it to 29.97 it should still play the same and then you will be able to use the other encoder.
remember that JVC uses an odd cadence on the 100 series cameras, so the frame rate is actually 30p playing back at 60– so every frame has a duplicate, then the 3:2 needs to be removed to properly get back to 23.98
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
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So far the only work-around I’ve been able to get decent results from is to downconvert the 59.94 timeline via AJA into a DVCam deck, then reimport it as a new project (29.97). LiveType looses a lot, so I then have to make a separate video track with new titles. When I export it as MPEG2 to go into DVD SP, it looks fine.
Surely there must be a better way.
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I’ve been using the AJA DVCPRO HD settings for quite some time now, and haven’t experimented with FCP handling of it.
As for monitoring playback, I use the Sony LMD monitor. While editing, I use the monitor’s HD card, but for DVD playback, I use its regular SD format. I definitely don’t go by my computer monitor.
When I tried using Cinema Tools, one conforming session doubled the playback time, and when I tried another conforming session, it wasn’t allowed because my footage is not interlaced. I’m not familiar with CT, so I simply went by the manual.
You’re absolutley right about the JVC cadence. Every frame is duplicated. I haven’t tried removing the 3:2 pulldown.
Thanks for the advice,
Sarah
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