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  • magic “casino” bullet

    Posted by Tielman Dewaele on May 5, 2007 at 5:35 pm

    Hey,

    We shot a short movie in a casino a week ago.(with a hdvcpro Panasonic 50 mm lens).
    Because off the strickt rules, and less time we couldnt realy use that many light on the set. So the footage is very dark, but luckely it doesnt bother that much.

    So the footage looks ok, despite all the troubles we had on the set.
    Now i want to make it a more film-look. I use magic bullet editor for this.

    I used it a couple of times, and as probebly many do; is use the presets and change the saturation, contrast on it. But when i do now, its looks bad. Bad in a way that it looks grainy, even do it doesnt on the footage.

    I want to go for a sort of sepia look or maby a sort of green bleach pass collor.

    What do i have to do to get this. What do i need do to not get a grainly look.
    Im a magic bullet dummy!
    See some stills here:
    https://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001327443211908001
    or https://aycu22.webshots.com/image/17021/2001327443211908001_rs.jpg

    Massive thanks

    T.

    Peace

    Jim Dodson replied 19 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Simon Blackledge

    May 5, 2007 at 6:03 pm

    Hey T.

    To apply the pre-sets your footage needs to be quite flat. If you have dark shots the pre-sets will make them worse as they will add contrast etc.

    can you post a still large.. from orig footage and one from the clip you think looks bad?

    try setting everything flat.

    set a tint color, sepia. then take it from there.. if its dark already you may not want to darken anymore.. rather boost the mids.

    S

  • Ben Holmes

    May 5, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    T

    The problem is that shooting in low light means using gain the the camera, which of course means noise in the shots. It’s likely that anything you do to liven up the shots, and light the gloom, will bring that noise out in the treatment. Add a film look in, and your video noise can become ‘grain’. It’s one of the many reasons that pro video cameras cost 100 times what camcorders do.

    Unfortunately, it’s a lot easier to add grain than remove it. Perhaps you could consider a grainy look for the whole film? I’d even consider a black and white look depending on the subject. If you have footage shot in better light, you are better off finding a happy medium whereby you can match all the footage together.

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd

    EVS & FCP specialists for live broadcast.

    OB Server 1 HD – Mobile FCP editing done right.

  • David Roth weiss

    May 5, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    Magic Bullet and most of the other film look plugins add grain intentionally in order to emulate various film stocks. If you turn down the amount of grain all you get is higher contrast video that still looks like video.

    However, you might try Nattress Film Effects from Graeme Nattress who oft times frequents this very forum. Its said my many to do a better job than The Bullet, and much less render time. https://dvcreators.net/nattress-film-effects-fcp-plugin

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Tielman Dewaele

    May 5, 2007 at 7:08 pm
  • Graeme Nattress

    May 5, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    http://www.nattress.com for film effects info. Best bet to help with noisy footage is try a bit of diffusion to mask the noise. Any more than that, and it’s going to be tricky. I’d recommend my noise reduction stuff in “Color”, but that’s not out yet, but if you can wait until you get FCS2, then that might be an option.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • David Roth weiss

    May 5, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    Sorry Graeme, I did not mean to post a reseller, that was inadvertent on my part.

    David

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • Graeme Nattress

    May 6, 2007 at 1:52 am

    No worries. If people have queries, it’s usually best to come to me direct, then I can answer their questions and deal with any problems they have.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Jim Dodson

    May 8, 2007 at 2:21 am

    Here’s a whacky idea that might help — make a copy of your clip above your original (hold down option + shift and drag clip to the track above your orig). Now set that top layer to composite mode “add” — this will brighten up the clip — you can export that out (or nest it) and try color correcting the new brightened image — this has had miraculous results for me in similar circumstances and hey, it’s worth a try…

    Jim Dodson

    Quad 2.5 gig Mac – OSX

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