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  • Exporting from FCP for AVID online

    Posted by Uli Kunkel on March 27, 2007 at 7:01 pm

    I shot a film on the Panasonic HVX200 with a Firestore at 720p24 (i.e. there is no tape and the Firestore resets the timecode for every shot). I will be doing my color correcting on an Avid Symphony. Does anyone know the best workflow for exporting my sequence and EDL from FCP into files that the Avid will understand?

    – My idea was to use the Media Manager to export a copy of the project referencing only the used media with handles. Then, from the project, export an EDL that references the copied files.

    Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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    Shane Ross replied 19 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 27, 2007 at 7:12 pm

    [thebishop] “Does anyone know the best workflow for exporting my sequence and EDL from FCP into files that the Avid will understand?”

    If the Avid folks have the Automatic Duck Pro Importer, you can simply export an XML from FCP that the Avid can read.

    We use the Duck to import Avid OMF’s all the time and it works flawlessly.

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  • Aaron Neitz

    March 27, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    Export your entire finished timeline as a self-contained QT. Since it’s DV-HD to begin with, FCP is working with it at it’s highest resolution to begin with. He’ll have to ensure his AVID can work in this format.

    Then make a simple CMX3600 EDL so the Avid guy knows where the cut points are.

  • Uli Kunkel

    March 27, 2007 at 7:20 pm

    My concern is not importing the QT files into the Avid. My concern is having an EDL from Final Cut that the Avid will understand to reference the QT that I import into the Avid.

    If I bring all the media from the Final Cut Project into the Avid then do a batch import on the Avid using an EDL from FCP, will the clips reconnect properly?

  • Uli Kunkel

    March 27, 2007 at 7:22 pm

    Let me make sure I’m understanding you correctly. Are you saying (1) export one long movie file from my FCP sequence (2) and then export the EDL that you specified from FCP, and then (3) import the long movie file and the EDL into the Symphony and it will automatically make cut points in the long movie file?

  • Shane Ross

    March 27, 2007 at 7:31 pm

    The issue here is that you don’t have tape to recapture, only footage that you imported. Unless the Symphony can see the original MXF files, you’ll have to do the self contained QT thing.

    Or Color correct in FCP. It does a bang up job. Walter and I do it all the time. Get a real artist in there and it can look gangbusters.

    Don’t need to go to Avid just because it is an Avid.
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    Shane

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  • Uli Kunkel

    March 27, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Can’t I import my media from my FCP sequence into the Symphony then use an EDL from FCP to rebuild the sequence?

  • Aaron Neitz

    March 27, 2007 at 7:41 pm

    Pretty much. I don’t know if the avid can take an EDL and automatically make cuts in a QT movie, but even doing it by hand should take a minimal amount of time.

  • John Davidson

    March 27, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    Keep in mind, if you do any major transitions, scaling, etc., it’s not going to transfer correctly – even if you use automatic duck. We export for avid every week using the duck and many times it leaves something to be desired transitionwise. Also, automatic duck will give you a list of what didn’t go across correctly, very helpful.

    Not sure why you wanna mess up your project with avid, hopefully you’re working on an avid symphony hd. I can only imagine how well Avid will handle p2 media.

    Good luck.

  • Tom Matthies

    March 27, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    While I don’t use the FS-100 for capturing from camera, I do use the FS-3 in standard definition. When I shoot, I also roll a tape for backup resulting in files with the same timecode as the scenes on the tape. My Firestore also “names” each file with the time and date it was recorded along with other metadata. I don’t know if the FS-100 does this, but those names from my FS-3 do transfer into Final Cut when they are imported. They should be in your FCP bin with the proginal names still attached. Wouldn’t it be possible to simply export an EDL to your Avid and then re-import your original files from your hard drive using the original names that the FS-100 assigned to the files? Or am I missing something?
    Did you rename the files once they were imported into FCP?
    Tom

  • Uli Kunkel

    March 27, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    It is, in fact, a Symphony HD, but I don’t really want to spend the money on Automatic Duck.

    What do you think of simply exporting the whole uncompressed movie in FCP, bringing it into the AVID, adding edits at each cut point, then color correcting that way? No handles, but it would work right?

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