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  • tv safe video frames

    Posted by Jacob Picorale on January 11, 2007 at 2:41 am

    Is there anyway to make sure that the whole frame of a NTSC DV video is fully viewable on a TV screen? When I burn my video to DVD, on some TV’s it cuts off a ton on both sides,…and on some it cuts off less. Is there anyway to make sure it always shows the whole frame??

    Rennie Klymyk replied 19 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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    January 11, 2007 at 6:02 am

    No, you can’t see the complete video image, edge-to-edge, on standard TV sets.
    That’s what the “safe area” guide-frames is all about.

    You must keep everything that is “important” (especially Titles) well-within the “safe area” so that those images will be seen (and not cut off) on MOST standard TV’s.

  • Tom Matthies

    January 11, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    In your canvas turn on “Show Overlays” and then turn on “Show Safe Title” if it isn’t on already.
    There are two boxes on the screen generally know as Safe Title and Safe Action. Keep any important graphics or clips inside the smaller box and you should be fine when you show your video on a TV.
    tom

  • John Steventon

    January 11, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    [Matte] “You must keep everything that is “important” (especially Titles) well-within the “safe area” so that those images will be seen (and not cut off) on MOST standard TV’s.”

    That’s midly misleading, though correct.

    Just to clear it up, when you turn on the ‘Show Title Safe’ option in the view menu, you’ll be presented with TWO green boxes. Picture safe is when you keep all the important elements of your picture inside the OUTER box, but in order to make sure you never crop off titles etc, you must keep them inside the INNER green box (Title Safe).

    So though Mattes comment was accurate, just in case, I thought it best to throw in my twopence worth. (I write from experience, working with someone who thought the outer was title safe, and the inner one was there as guide for text height!)

    John

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  • Thaxter Clavemarlton

    January 11, 2007 at 2:42 pm

    [John Steventon] “That’s midly misleading, though correct.”

    Well, I guess that statement certainly clears everything up.

  • John Steventon

    January 11, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    I going to go all Kenobi, and say ‘It’s true… from a certain point of view…’ but I didn’t want anyone to leap on my post and take it the wrong way…

    I guess I wss wrong 🙂

    John Steventon – Author of DJing for Dummies

    Success is merely a failiure to imagine more…

    G5 2.7Ghz, 4.5Gb ram, Blackmagic Decklink/multibridge, 5.6Tb Infortrend storage, FCP Studio 5.04, Makie MCU control, Yahama 5.1 surround, JVC DTV multi-format monitor, 2x23inch Apple monitors – and a partirdge on a pear tree.

  • Jacob Picorale

    January 11, 2007 at 6:14 pm

    Thanks guys…definitely cleared everything up for me. So…I guess while filming you can put tape on the border of the LCD viewer or something??….in order to know exactly what is in your frame?? I feel like some shots on my dvd are ruined now because you can’t see the outer extremities. Oh well, I’ll have to compromise. Thanks again, I appreciate it.

  • Rennie Klymyk

    January 11, 2007 at 10:34 pm

    Keep in mind the reason for all this is – the shape of the crt tube has to have strength as it is a vacume inside and so manufacturers have to make em with round corners. The 1st B&W tubes were the worst and eventually we had flat screens. The bezel that helps hold the tube in position on normal tv’s has to clamp onto the tube so we get the cropping where it contacts the round corners of the tube. Also the manufacturer has to determine where to end the phousphors on the front of the tubes. So this and the design of the bezel determines how much of the picture gets cropped on different manufacturer’s tv’s.
    Video projectors and lcd’s show the whole picture so this is becomming a non-issue. Pro monitors (crt) have underscan so we get the whole picture.

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