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  • Mixing NTSC and PAL on the timeline

    Posted by Hamish Boyd on January 9, 2007 at 10:31 pm

    Hi all,

    I’ve got a project that mixes PAL dv and NTSC DV footage. (I’m in PAL land). I’m having issues capturing ntsc of a Sony DSR-11.
    I have set the capture settings in the capture window for NTSC anamorphic and NTSC firewire but I get nothing. Have tried a few different settings but still nothing.
    The sony happily plays the tapes to my monitor (switches to ntsc) but FCP can’t see it.

    Am I missing something?

    Also will I just have to put up with render times on the timeline to intercut this footage into a PAL timeline, or is there another way I might not have thought about for workflow.

    Cheers

    Debe replied 19 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Phillip Van west

    January 9, 2007 at 11:02 pm

    Probably a stupid question but did you remember to switch your DSR-11 to NTSC (the switch on the back)?

    Phil Van West
    Terra Nova Productions
    Denver, CO
    Video Production/Post-Production

    G5 DP 2.5GHz / 4.5 GB RAM / OS 10.4.8 / FCP 5.1.2 / QT 7.1.3

  • Hamish Boyd

    January 9, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    No not a stupid question. Just a stupid person here. (slaps head, getting coffee)
    I did that silly thing of assuming that because I saw the NTSC light glowing on the front and watching it on the monitor it auto switched or something.I was wrong….
    Thankyou..

    My next issue is all workflow related..

    How to best fix this formats on the timeline. Or am I just best to get the tapes properly converted first lest I was endless issues on a tight deadline?

  • Hamish Boyd

    January 10, 2007 at 12:45 am

    PAL delivery. Yeah, I’ve just found that Nattress plug in online just then! Hadn’t heard of it before. But its a time issue now. We have shipped it out for dubs instead. The render times seem prohibative for the amount of footage we have.

  • Rafael Amador

    January 10, 2007 at 11:39 am

    A good transcoding from Pal to NTSC it takes time. I tried with compressor (Manual frame control) and it takes ages but de difference is noticiable. I’ve never tried the one of Nattress but I heard very well about it.
    Salud,
    Rafael

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 10, 2007 at 11:43 am

    [Dave LaRonde] “I understand that Grahame Nattress makes a good NTSC-PAL converter for use in FCP.”

    It’s outstanding. We’re doing a 1080i/50 PAL HD series right now and the first episode had about 10% NTSC material. We used Graeme’s standards converter and the network was extremely pleased with the conversion. They were surprised we did it using software instead of hardware.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Debe

    January 13, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    I had a similar issue with a PAL taped shipped over from a client’s London office.

    I looked into hardware and software conversion. We went with hardware because it was faster, and the producer wanted the entire field tape converted for future use. I couldn’t tie up my edit system that long.

    I emailed Graeme directly and asked him the speeds of conversion using his converter. He said it’s 5x real time.

    That’s a very handy number to keep in your noggin when deciding whether or not to go with hardware or software conversion.

    For me, it was much easier and faster to send it out and let someone deal with it while I continued editing. Under other circumstances, I sure can see myself letting the Nattress converter do it’s thing.

    debe

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