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Dvcpro hd to hdv master?
OK, my client is starting to quiz us contributing producers about moving to some flavor of hi def, here’s what I’m thinking about suggesting.
After much trial and tribulation, I’m going to go with the hvx as a camera, just love the panasonic image, (p2 is another story, but no need to go there again). Problem is, most of us contributors are pretty small fish, and the pay on these spots is too low to justify an AJ-HD1400. But we can afford an M15U. My thinking is that I can shoot dvcpro hd72024p, ingest from a firestore, cut on a dvcpro hd 720p timeline, and then downconvert to hdv out of a Kona 3.
Now, keep in mind I full well realize that this represents a compromise, but money is an issue. Also, keep in mind that right now they accept delivery on minidv, for broadcast, so they are realistic with regard to budgets – content is still the overriding factor with them.
So, is this realistic, and is an HDV master from this deck considered delivering in hi-def? Wanted to do a reality check before opening my big mouth.
G5 Quad Core, 4.5 MB RAM, Dual Dell 1905FP’s, KRK RP-5’s, DSR-11, FC Studio 5.1.2 OSX 10.4.8
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10 Replies
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Dont master in a format that is more compressed then what you shot unless you absolutly must.
If you want a tape master get a DVCPRO HD deck, if you cant afford a deck consider mastering to a file stored on an external drive.
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[StuS57] ” right now they accept delivery on minidv”
That doesn’t mean that they will accept HDV as a master. I’d be shocked if anyone did. It is an acquisition format, not a mastering format. Your clients accept DV as master…but what will they accept as an HD master? DVCPRO HD, IMHO, is the lowest format you can deliver a master on.
And don’t buy the deck…rent it. Very few of us can afford to buy it.
Shane
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[StuS57] “My thinking is that I can shoot dvcpro hd72024p, ingest from a firestore, cut on a dvcpro hd 720p timeline, and then downconvert to hdv out of a Kona 3.”
Kona 3 does not convert anything to HDV. It merely plays back HDV out of the board for realtime playback.
HDV is NOT a mastering format. HDV is an aquisition format only. Nobody will accept HDV as a mastering format that I’ve heard. DVCPro HD, yes.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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I am also going to chime in on this.\
I do not know of any HDV deck that can record HDV content in realtime. That will mean hours and hours of rendering to get considerably less quality than you started with.
To repeat what shane said about most outlets will not take HDV masters, Most outlets refuse more than 15 minutes of HDV content per hour show.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
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Glad I asked. Looks like a deck rental is the best option – the only option, really.
G5 Quad Core, 4.5 MB RAM, Dual Dell 1905FP’s, KRK RP-5’s, DSR-11, FC Studio 5.1.2 OSX 10.4.8
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Or perhaps you could give the final rendered Quicktime file to a post facility and have them play it out for you. This would likely not cost much more (if any more) than renting a deck and trying to do something you haven’t done before (not to mention assuming technical responsibility for it).
Do it yourself is fine when it makes sense. But just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should, especially if there’s no advantage to it, and especially when professional services are available at about the same cost.
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Any guess on how big a file a qt 5 minute dvcprohd movie would be, and how long it might take to render one out (system specs below)? I agree on renting a deck, it’s a hassle and a big wate of time, but it does force you to learn – if you want to get paid.
G5 Quad Core, 4.5 MB RAM, Dual Dell 1905FP’s, KRK RP-5’s, DSR-11, FC Studio 5.1.2 OSX 10.4.8
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[StuS57] “Any guess on how big a file a qt 5 minute dvcprohd movie would be,”
depends on the frame size and frame rate.
720p 24 would be about 1.7gigs,
1080i 60 or 720p60 is about 4 gigs for 5 minutes.gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
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[StuS57] “Any guess on how big a file a qt 5 minute dvcprohd movie would be”
Stu,
Don’t guess, get yourself Digital Heaven’s free VideoSpace widget and you’ll be able to quickly calculate exactly how much hard drive space is required for any running time of any video format at any frame rate.
DRW
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Thanks for that widget heads-up, David. Very cool!
Bob
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