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  • cutting in 29.97 moving to 23.98?

    Posted by Kevin on November 24, 2006 at 4:41 pm

    Hi,
    I inadvertently (uh, forgot) to set a sequence to 23.98 and cut the entire thing in a 29.97 timeline. Is it alright to then move the entire cut into a 23.98 timeline? Will this cause problems in output?
    Thanks,
    K

    G5 dual 1.8
    4 gig RAM
    FCP 5.0

    Kevin replied 19 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 24, 2006 at 4:47 pm

    Did you capture at 23.98 or 29.97? What are the properties of the clips in your browser?

    Jerry

  • Kevin

    November 24, 2006 at 4:56 pm

    Hi,
    We shot on the Varicam in 720p 24. The clip’s properties are listed as 23.98. I inadvertently cut a 29.97 sequence. There is a HD960x720 preset in frame size as well, which is what the properties list the clips as. Do I also need to change this?
    I’m new to cutting HD so I’m not totally sure as to what the sequence presets should be for this. Thanks for your help.
    K

  • Kevin

    November 24, 2006 at 4:58 pm

    PS – the eventual outputs will be both for HD projection as well as a 35mm film out.

  • Shane Ross

    November 24, 2006 at 5:06 pm

    When you dropped the 23.98 clips into the 29.97 timeline, did they require rendering before you could start editing?

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Kevin

    November 24, 2006 at 5:13 pm

    Yes, they did.

  • Shane Ross

    November 24, 2006 at 5:24 pm

    Well, not to be harsh, but that should have been a sign that something was wrong. You should never have to render your footage if you just drop it onto the timeline.

    From other postings I know that when people tried moving the sequence from a 29.97 timeline to a 23.98 timeline they got gaps in between every cut. So you can do that, just know that you have a lot of fixing of the sequence to do.

    < Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 24, 2006 at 5:25 pm

    I think that you need to copy the sequence’s clips to a 23.98 sequence, then perform a match frame/replace edit on each one.

    Jerry

  • Kevin

    November 24, 2006 at 5:31 pm

    But don’t you have to render footage that was shot in HD? When I drop footage in at any setting (including the HD settings) it required rendering. Am I doing something wrong here?
    The footage was shot 720p 24 on a Varicam. I’m trying to figure out the correct presets.
    Thanks
    K

  • Michael Sacci

    November 24, 2006 at 5:45 pm

    One stream, no, it should play just fine unless you are on an old G4 system. Think about it, if you drop in a HD clip onto a hd seq. what would it render, a HD clip. So the red line is a red flag that clip and seq do not match as stated above.

    Question for the others – if Kevin is completely done editing, could he take the finished reference movie into Cinema Tools and remove the pulldown that he has added in because of the 29.97 timeline? Or even using Shake to conform to 23.98? Would that be safer than working within FCP?

  • Shane Ross

    November 24, 2006 at 5:49 pm

    [Kevin] “ut don’t you have to render footage that was shot in HD?”

    No, you don’t. I edit DVCPRO HD 720p24 footage all day long…no rendering. What you need to do is go to the Final Cut Pro menu and choose EASY SETUP. In there, choose DVCPRO HD 720p24. Then create a new sequence. Then as a test, drag your clips from the browser into that sequence. If you have to render, then something is wrong, and you need to try other settings…the other DVCPRO HD Easy Setups.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

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