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  • HDCAM encoding settings?

    Posted by Jason Dutcher on November 14, 2006 at 2:14 am

    Just thought I would ask to see what other would use for settings in thhis scenario:
    Footage is on HDCAM shot @ 1080i 29.97 – footageneeds to go out in HD as high as quality as possible

    What should I have for encode settings? Sequence settings?

    This is what I currently have set, let me know if these settings looks weird or you would do something different here please?

    Encoding: Kona, 1080i 29.97 10bit

    FCP seq settings:
    frame size 1920 x 1080 HDTV 16:9
    Pixel aspect ratio: square
    Field dominence: upper
    QT video settings: uncompressed 10-bit 4.2.2
    video processing: render 10bit material in High precision YUV

    New to the HD world and want to make sure I am set right, so any help would be appreciated, thanks.

    Jerry Hofmann replied 19 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    November 14, 2006 at 2:24 am

    Looks good to me. As long as you have hardware to support 10bit 1080i, you’re good to go.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Jason Dutcher

    November 14, 2006 at 2:30 am

    Yes I think so, I have a ciprico 5 TB RAID pushin 330+/mb/sec
    Kona 3 card
    8gb RAM
    G5dual core 3ghzi ntel xeon

    But, I was alos wondering if I could go into low res/draft mode to do multiclip editing and then render? I am not able to do multiclip in full res, but am trying to figure out if it would be possible to dummy down the footage and then render the cut? Possible? How would I set that up? Thanks!

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 14, 2006 at 2:34 am

    [jaru22] “But, I was alos wondering if I could go into low res/draft mode to do multiclip editing and then render? I am not able to do multiclip in full res, but am trying to figure out if it would be possible to dummy down the footage and then render the cut? Possible? How would I set that up? Thanks!”

    Just use the DVCPro HD 1080i preset that matches your 10bit preset. Do your offline, then recapture at full 10bit. This way you can even color correct since you’re working in full HD color space. MUCH better than down converting to SD for an offline.

    The Kona cards convert the footage to DVCPro HD on the way in. Just choose an Kona Easy Setup with DVCPro HD 1080i.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Jason Dutcher

    November 14, 2006 at 2:41 am

    Thanks for the quick response, I really appreciate it!
    So to clarify, I should digitize in DVCpro HD 1080i and that will allow me to use multiclip? That will be a small enough file/codec with my set up? How many cameras do you think I could cut “live” with this setting?
    Then after I have finished the project edit and color correcting, I re-digitize the sequence in uncompressed 10bit 4.2.2. I will only have to re-digitize the “actual footage used” and not the whole clip correct?

    With the DVCpro HD 1080i codec how much “loss will there be? A lot of would I just be better off encoding, editing and the outputting in this codec anyway?
    Thanks!

  • Walter Biscardi

    November 14, 2006 at 2:48 am

    [jaru22] “So to clarify, I should digitize in DVCpro HD 1080i and that will allow me to use multiclip? That will be a small enough file/codec with my set up? How many cameras do you think I could cut “live” with this setting?”

    I’ve never done multiclip so I can’t tell you for sure that will work, but with the Ciprico array you should have enough speed to make that happen. Capture a few clips and test it.

    [jaru22] “Then after I have finished the project edit and color correcting, I re-digitize the sequence in uncompressed 10bit 4.2.2. I will only have to re-digitize the “actual footage used” and not the whole clip correct?”

    You will need to use Media Manager to make this work correctly so FCP does not capture the entire clip. It can be a real hassle so read up on how it works and do some searches on here for Media Manager with Jerry Hofmann as the author. He really has a great handle on how the Manager works.

    [jaru22] “With the DVCpro HD 1080i codec how much “loss will there be? A lot of would I just be better off encoding, editing and the outputting in this codec anyway?”

    Depends on your client. We edit / deliver in the DVCPro HD codec all day long and the networks have been telling us we’re delivering some of the best HD they’ve seen. We work on both 720p and 1080i projects but deliver everything in 1080i. One network gets HDCAM masters while the other gets DVCPro HD masters. But everything is captured, edited and mastered using the DVCPro HD codec.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Jason Dutcher

    November 14, 2006 at 3:05 am

    Sweeeeet! I just did a test and that worked…almost! I see the video clips cutting and the clip edit markers are on top of the timeline and I see the cuts happening in my canvas, but when I pause the markers go away and no cuts have been made to the timeline???? What am I missing here. I know you said you are not a pro at multiclip but maybe someone who is can help here with a suggestion?

    Thanks Walter, big help here, the uncompressed 10bit 4.2.2 may just be too much to deal with right now and If I can convince my people to accept DVCproHD as the standard that will save me a lot of time!

  • Jerry Hofmann

    November 14, 2006 at 3:29 am

    It depends on how many streams you’re attempting and how fast your Mac is.

    You need to be able to have a drive setup that can play as many files you need to playback at the same time basically, right?
    A FW drive will play 2… It’s about that fast. e sata single might get 3… a five way probably 10 at least in DVPROHD. It’s a great codec for it’s size.

    Jerry

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