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realplayer help!
Hey guys. I have an issue, that I am sure some people here could help with.
I have a lecture that was shot into quicktime using a firestore. The file worked fine with FCP Studio (fully updated) I successfully edited it down, made it into a dvd using compressor and dvdSP4. I then needed to render out a REALPLAYER media file. There is no wiggle room, it must be REALPLAYER, we already made them a quicktime file, which works FINE.
I am on a dualcore g5. I installed the realplayer export, available on the real.com site. IT works fine from quicktime pro. Even tho it’s not 10.4 supported, it says failed, but the files always work..
So I rendered out, fully, a 13gb file from the firestore files. (the firestore records in 9min bursts), this realplayer file, is out of sync. I try sorenson squeeze, and it doesnt even render out a file. (Ill save my squeeze stories for another day) I try on three different computers, using squeeze, qtpro, anything I can think of, it won’t render it in sync.
I then took another file, shot quicktime (.mov) with the firestore, from anotehr project, it won’t render in sync.
I then take a file that I captured from a tape, and it renders…fine.
Any ideas here guys?
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10 Replies
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Have not used real player export but two suggestions.
1 – make sure you export from FCP a Self Contained Movie so the audio and video files are married before you attempt the export.
2 – If all else fails, slip the audio files in FCP forward or back depending where the audio is out of sync and manually sync the audio in the realplayer movie. For instance, if you think the audio is about 5 frames late, slide the audio tracks 5 frames forward in FCP, export the QT movie and then create the Realplayer document.
Try this with a short, say 5 or 10 second, portion of the movie and when the audio / video line up correctly in Realplayer, render out the whole thing.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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interesting..
i did export the file as self contained…so i should try and throw my QT movie out of sync, to resync the realfile…interesting.
thats what you mean right, because my QT timeline is 100% in sync.
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[ben] “i did export the file as self contained…so i should try and throw my QT movie out of sync, to resync the realfile…interesting.
thats what you mean right, because my QT timeline is 100% in sync.”
Yeah, that’s one suggestion if nobody else gives you anything that works. Sometimes doing something “dumb” gets the job done. After you get the job done and out of your hair, you can go back and investigate why the file is out of sync in the first place and address it.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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thanks for the great advice, i will try this in a bit.
this is an entire university wide thing, any file shot quicktime with the firestore, renders to realplayer out of sync, everything else, wmv, qt, h264m sorenson 3 is perfectly fine…
weird.
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Could be something with QT 7.1.3 and RealPlayer. That seems to be causing some issues with several apps.
Basically I operate under the rule of “If it isn’t working the way it’s supposed to, what I can do to finish it. Once it’s done and mastered, then go back, contact the manufacturer, ask on the Cow, etc…. to find out what the real problem is and how to address. But at least my project is done and the pressure of getting it out is removed.
Definitely more relaxing to deal with just the issue rather than the issue AND a looming deadline.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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thanks for the great advice!
i hope that throwing my timeline out of sync, will resync, lol. i would have never thought of that.
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You did say things from tape stayed in sync, yes?
How long is it? Can you put it on tape from FCP, capture it back in and then make your Realplayer file?
That would be another workaround to try if Walter’s idea doesn’t work for you, but it’ll probably take much more time.
I know you said it must be Real, and for the time being, obviously, you need to do that. However, you and the school are aware that Real is a “dead” format that is no longer being developed, and if it is still being supported, that is not long for this world, either?
Eventually, it might be that the school might have to choose between Real and uprading the computers. It might happen that there will be no Real Player available that will work on the new OS, whether that be Leopard, or Vista or later. In order to move forward and keep current, you may have to leave Real behind.
With Leopard on the horizon, and Vista seemingly imminemt, at least according to Microsoft, it might be time to figure out which direction to go for the “next generation”.
Not that this helps you now, though! However, thinking ahead might save everyone the headache of having to convert all your Real files in a hurry because everything needs to upgrade, and we all know that once the decision is made, it usually doesn’t get “unmade”. Of course, you or someone at the school might be already on top of this!
debe
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i work for a major university.
i have been saying for 2 years, that realplayer is the worst possible format. except for some reason they stick with this crappy anystream software…its backwards, but its the way it is. supposedly at the begining of this semester, everythign was supposed to be quicktime, but they had problems and revereted back to quicktime.
dumb. but its not my call. heck, they aren’t even using tapes anymore because its too expensive, thats right, no tape backups, just shooting direct to firestores. gee, i cant wait till a canon xl1 shuts off because it goes into sleep mode. ahhhh, this is my nightmare, people who make decisions that don’t know.
but yea, there isnt really a way to convert a realplayer file to quicktime..unless u shoot it off a screen, what is this, 1950?
-ben
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Uggg…
I don’t envy your situation, Ben!
Good luck with the slippin & slidin’!
debe
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well, as it goes, magic happened.
I deleted everything on my computer realplayer, quicktime, and sorenson squeeze related, including the realmediaexport.
I reinstalled quicktime. i reinstalled sorenson 4.3.3. and magically, my test realplayer renders are in sync.
must have been something corrupt somewhere, becuase before, the RP renders from squeeze wouldnt even show up as file, it’d be missing. no file anywhere.
fact of the matter is that realplayer sucks. i think we should start a petition to outlaw it on the cow!
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