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  • HDV 2.0 and Apple FCP 5.0

    Posted by Rich Rumppe on October 15, 2006 at 1:21 am

    So I’ve hear it called HDV 2.0 ….Sony’s new camera (HVR-V1U) that records 24P to tape as 60i content.
    the Pixels are diamond shaped instead of square. The camera also has an HDMI out port and it is being marketed with a Hard drive that will record the video as files that can be loaded directly into Vegas (another Sony Product). From the liturature on the Sony Web site it’s not apparent what format they are actually using to put the data on tape or whats actually comming out of the hard drive.
    The question is Does anyone know if Apple and Final Cut will be able to handle the images from this system or is it something that Apple will have to write a new codec for.

    Any information or even educated opinion appreciated.

    Rich

    John replied 19 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Rj Miles

    October 15, 2006 at 2:55 am

    There is a HVR-V1U story on p.50 of the October/2006 issue of Millimeter.

    Unfortunately, it does not go very far in answering your question, but it suggests the BlackMagic Design Intensity HDMI PCI-e capture card will be the connection of choice for getting at the “extra” data unavailable over FW/HDV. The HVR-DR60 hard disc recorder is also mentioned, but again there are no hints at the format or what specific software will be able access the files. 3X download times is mentioned, which would be a nice feature/upgrade over capturing realtime via DV or HDMI.

    I plan to visit the NYC NAB show in a couple weeks, and I hope we see some more info on this camera as well as the whole HDMI based recording workflow.

  • Uli Plank

    October 15, 2006 at 7:32 am

    I spoke to a Sony engineer at IBC, and from what I understood (you could tell he really was an engineer and not a marketing guy by his bad English) the 24p is recorded fully compatible with existing 1080i60

  • Rj Miles

    October 15, 2006 at 4:38 pm

    Uli…

    Does the hard disc recording option also capture the higher quality signal?

  • Rich Rumppe

    October 16, 2006 at 1:44 am

    It sounds like this is shot 24p but before its recorded to tape it’s converted to the same HDV we know today. I would also assume that the data recorded to the new DR60 would be the same thing that Focus enhancements uses. I think they are quicktime files. These should be able to be imported directly into final cut as downloaded quicktime files.

    I’m still curious about the workflo to final cut before I commit to buy this 24P camera if I’m not really getting 24p.

    Rich

  • Uli Plank

    October 16, 2006 at 7:57 am

    It’s impossible to shoot uncompressed HD to a single disk, their HD recorder will definitely be recording ordinary HDV.

    When we recorded the Canon uncompressed to HD, we used the MegaCine which has 16 (!) small HDs as an array…

    Regards,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

  • John

    November 7, 2006 at 3:37 pm

    I don’t think we should assume full compatibility with FCP 5.1 until someone has actually tried it. For a long time, Focus did not support QuickTime forcing FCP users to convert the data from Win AVI format to QuickTime in order to use in the FCP timeline. Now, you can choose the your record format from a menu setting on the recorder. Usually the format is AVI if you’re a PC user with Premeire or QuickTime if you’re Mac user with FCP. But they also support OMF, MXF, and now even the P2 format.

    John Christensen
    cdesign@airmail.net

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