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  • 24pA Cature Test – 23.98 Pulldown removal/29.97/29.97 converted to 23.98

    Posted by Arcanenation on October 3, 2006 at 9:13 pm

    I’m trying to help out the many like me with the 24p problem that everyone seems to have, but no one can seem to give a complete answer to.

    Alright I captured the same 30 sec clip 3 times. I picked a shot from a wedding with a slow pan back and forth. The 24pA footage looks great when monitored from the tape, but crappy during playback after being captured in pulldown removal and played in a 23.98 sequence in FCP HD. That much is clear.

    Capture order:

    1. DV NTSC Advanced (2:3:3:2) Pulldown Removal (23.98)
    2. Normal DV NTSC (29.97)
    3. Normal DV NTSC (29.97) converted to 23.98 in Cinema Tools and imported back to FCP

    After exporting each clip from their respective sequences, which were set to the fps that the clips were captured under, and burned to DVD in seperate chapters, here’s what the footage looked like:

    1. Way too choppy. True, 24pA may not be neccesary when shooting something like a wedding. But what if I was shooting a film, wanting to achieve the look of the industry by shooting 24pA, and panned in the same fashion? I’ve never seen a film that looked like that.
    2. The pan was way smoother, but of course, the look was more DV. The tradeoff, in my opinion, seems to be worth it.
    3. This is the best footage in my opinion. It maintained the film look but it definitely wasn’t as choppy as #1. You can tell in the pan. There were less frames (obviously) but it was still fluid.

    My conclusion:

    FCP’s Pulldown Removal either isn’t working right or I am missing a dire step in the editing process. I have converted footage with Cinema Tools in the past (29.97-23.98) and it has all looked great, never choppy like some of the footage captured through 2:3:3:2 in FCP. However, not all the footage captured has looked like that either.

    Maybe someone has a better grip on this than can help me out. Thanks

    Arcanenation replied 19 years, 12 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 4, 2006 at 4:19 am

    Are you sure the footage is shot 24pA?

  • Arcanenation

    October 4, 2006 at 9:01 pm

    Yep. I checked it on VCR mode on the camera.

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