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  • Workflow…PAL to NTSC

    Posted by Rich Rubasch on September 22, 2006 at 2:08 am

    Ok, I know I can do a standards conversion at my dub house, but I have a Pipe Studio card and a DVCAM and M25U HDV deck, I believe they can both playback PAL video…I also can capture via the Pipe PAL as well. I just cannot monitor it. So I can upload footage, but would there be a reasonable workflow to do a conversion via compressor or other? Anyone use this workflow?

    I might be getting a bunch of DVCAM and HDV master tapes in PAL along with some NTSC that will all be cut 8-bit uncompressed in the end.

    Or do I just make a clone via a standards converter (I think our dub house uses a Laird) at the dub house?

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media

    Rafael Amador replied 19 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    September 22, 2006 at 2:32 am

    Hi Rich,
    I’ve got the best results with Compressor. Although the process, if you are very exigent with your set-ups, can be killing slow.
    salud.
    Rafael

  • Neil Ryan

    September 22, 2006 at 2:44 am

    [Rich Rubasch] “Or do I just make a clone via a standards converter (I think our dub house uses a Laird) at the dub house?”

    [rafalaos] “Although the process, if you are very exigent with your set-ups, can be killing slow.”

    So one important equation for you, Rafael, is: how much is your time worth? Is it worth spending, what … a day and a night (including computer time) doing it all yourself? or should you just output your usual standard (NTSC?) and get a conversion done by someone else (realtime) and work with that.
    You need to weigh up the differences between the two approaches in terms of cost, time and quality.

    Ask for advice, but the decision is one for you to make. And remember, this time you might do it one way, but the next time, the equation is different (maybe more time/less money or whatever) and you do it a different way.

    Hope me offering some realworld experience is a help …

    cheers.
    Neil.

  • Rafael Amador

    September 22, 2006 at 7:24 am

    Hi Nell,
    The truth is that my “realworld experience” can be very little typical. I live in Laos. 600 milles away from the closet SONY (my camera is ) service and 2500 milles from the Apple one. Last year to up-date my G5 I had to pick my lap-top, cross the border to Thailand. Download the up-dates in an Internet-cafe, and bring the packages to the Big Mac. Now, thanks God, Internet is a bit faster, so I can ask in the forums about any question. I’ve bee working, mostly as a video editor, since 1985. but when I decided trying to make video here (2002) I had not idea what a codec was. I’ve been up-dating my self in the digital domain just digging in Internet. Even I couldn’t buy books from abroad because desapear in the post.
    About the time and the money I can not think and act as if I would be in other country. Here there is not market, not industry. The most part of my custoners are NGOs and some international aids agencies or so. Here the average wages are below 100$ a mounth. So when somebody ask me for aquotation I know that my computer and me will work many hours without been paid. But if is the only way I can try to open a market.
    Although this of expending more time working than you have planned, is not only a matter of the production. I think is the tramp of the digital video. You can allways change something to improve your film, until you export. And there are always small things to touch. Editing on tapes you can not work like that. You must finish the things before putting something new in the tape. To go back and change something many times is just imposible. You just must redo everything. With the digital you can always change , but there is a monet that you must say yourself: OK thats goog enough.
    But back to the standards comvertion, thanks God I get very little footage in NTSC. If I would bring the NTSC footage to my PAL time-line in FC, my customers they wouldn’t complain, because they don’t not much about. The problem is that my self can not be happy when I know that I can get it better. This week I’ve being doing some animation in AE 6.5, but the images I did slowdown in Shake. I spent few hours but the result is amazing. In the end is my self the one I need to please. I think about all this “waisted time” like a king of “on the job trining” for my self. So when I work for somebody, I want that my my customer thinks that my time it’s worth, at least, the same that his time. But when I seat in front of my screen and I spent hours and hours doing something that I really like, I think that my time is mine. Because in the end is the only thing we own.
    Hope all this doesn sound too freaky.
    Salud,
    rafael

  • Michael Gissing

    September 22, 2006 at 8:29 am

    You can try the Nattress’s standards convertor plug in. There is a demo download on his site. I have down loaded the demo, but not yet had a chance to try it so I can’t advise on render times etc.

  • Jeremy Newmark

    September 22, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    Do your self a favor and get the Nattress plug-in. For $100 it is by far the best solution. The conversions are fantastic and render times are 40 times faster then doing it in compressor. If you do wind up going to a post house, make sure that they are done on either a Snell & Wilcox Alchemist, or on a Teranex, but that is going to cost you a lot more. If money is no object, outsource it, if money is a factor, get the plug-in, you will be happy with the results.

    Best Regards,
    jeremy

  • Rafael Amador

    September 23, 2006 at 12:04 pm

    Thanks for the tip Jeremy.
    rafael

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