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Digitising NTSC VHS onto a DVcamera?
Posted by Lanzi on June 2, 2006 at 4:19 pmSorry I ask this question in this forum but I am desperate. I will be using FCP later. But here is the problem:
I need to reverse a NTSC video footage (recorded on VHS) onto DV tape (I am in PAL region).
I have a VHS player which does NTSC playback only.
My PD170 functions as the recording deck. It is connected to the VHS player by A-V cable.
I cannot see the NTSC video on the camera LCD but I can get audio. I played around with the camera menu settings (NTSC PB option) but still no video.
Is it possible to record this kind of video onto DV tape the way I am doing it?
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Walter Biscardi
June 2, 2006 at 4:27 pmdoubt you can do this. I’ve never seen a DV camera, or any camera for that matter, that has video input. Audio yes, but no video. You’ll need a MiniDV recorder such as a sony DSR-11.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Bouncing Account needs new email address
June 2, 2006 at 7:19 pm[walter biscardi] “doubt you can do this. I’ve never seen a DV camera, or any camera for that matter, that has video input.”
Walter, what in the HECK are you saying?
You’ve never seen a camcorder with a VIDEO INPUT?
There are MANY (including many home video camcorders).The PD150/170 & VX2000/2100 certainly do.
These units not only can RECORD analog audio and video to DV TAPE… they can also “transcode” A-to-D in realtime and sed it down the FW.
I know you KNOW this… did you just make a typing error or have a “senior moment”? 😉
Now, to the original poster…
I doubt that you can record NTSC to a PAL camcorder.
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Rennie Klymyk
June 3, 2006 at 12:14 amRight , you need to convert the ntsc vhs to pal 1st. then digitze it. I don’t know how long the program is but there are software converters if you have the means to capture it in ntsc. The only other thing would be to record it off a broadcast monitor with ntsc and underscan with your camera. I’ve never tried this but turn off the lights if you do! Most buisinesses charge about $35.00 per hr. for vhs conversion. They may even feed it directly to your camera for you.
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Lanzi
June 3, 2006 at 6:20 amwhat a schmuck I am. I never knew the PD170 came in two models. A PAL version and a NTSC version. I thought being digital it had a menu function for switching from NTSC to PAL.
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Walter Biscardi
June 3, 2006 at 10:41 am[Matte] “Walter, what in the HECK are you saying?
You’ve never seen a camcorder with a VIDEO INPUT?
There are MANY (including many home video camcorders).The PD150/170 & VX2000/2100 certainly do.”
Nope, never seen one personally that has Video Input. Output sure, but not input. I just looked again at our home video camera and no video input, audio only and video output.
Our HVX-200 is out on rental right now so I’ll have to look at that when it comes back, but I don’t recall seeing any sort of video input on that.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Bouncing Account needs new email address
June 3, 2006 at 11:52 am[walter biscardi] “Nope, never seen one personally that has Video Input. Output sure, but not input. I just looked again at our home video camera and no video input, audio only and video output.
Our HVX-200 is out on rental right now so I’ll have to look at that when it comes back, but I don’t recall seeing any sort of video input on that.
“On camcorders, if (IF) they allow analog input, they use the OUTPUTS as the inputs for the purpose.
When switched to VCR (playback) mode, if you send an analog audio and/or video input back into the camcorder’s A/V output (Composite or S-Video), the video signal will appear on the cameras LCD screen (or viewfinder).Just load a DV tape, hit record, and play the analog source.
(For A-to-D transcoding with these models, the FW will be sending the external source down the FW to the Mac even with no tape in the machine.)There are many camcorders that have these features.
But many times you won’t know IF they DO unless you scour the operation manual (or just hook it up and TRY it).
So your camcorder(s) MIGHT have this feature… you just won’t find a dedicated “video input” on them.What surprised me about your answer, Walter, is that these features have been discussed dozens of times here on the FCP COW.
But if you’ve never had a NEED to use a camcorder as an analog-input deck, you may not have paid any attention to them.So no biggie… just a surprise.
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