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720p HD / Capture Error Message
Anyone else out there using FCP 5.1 with 720p HD capture yet?
I’m doing a DVCPro HD 59.94 capture via HD-SDI to the DVCPro HD codec via my Kona 2. (Easy Setup AJA Kona 2 DVCPro HD 59.94).
I’ve got about 55 shots in my bin batch digitizing. When the batch was completed I got an error message from FCP that it could not correctly Reconnect the media that was captured. I got this error message for every single clip. This is the same error that was happening with FCP 5.0 – 5.0.2 with 720p SDI captures.
Fortunately, it’s a false error as all the clips DO reconnect correctly. Just want to know if anyone is seeing this.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[walter biscardi] “I’m doing a DVCPro HD 59.94 capture via HD-SDI to the DVCPro HD codec via my Kona 2. (Easy Setup AJA Kona 2 DVCPro HD 59.94).”
did you update your Kona Driver too?
I have seen a couple of weird anomalies when using the UB version of FCP on a non-intel machine, adn broken drivers are first on the list.gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
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Walter,
Having just captured numerous hours of DVCPro 50, I can vouch for the fact that Panasonic decks and FCP 5.1 do have some protocol issues. No matter what I did or how I logged (I know of the Capture Now issues), some captures wound up with audio at 47.873 khz or there abouts. You couldn’t do that with a Sony deck if you tried. In any case, though my experience doesn’t directly apply to your scenario, it is indicative of some problems that exist bewteen Pany decks and FCP.
DRW
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[gary adcock] ”
did you update your Kona Driver too?”Yep, updated that this morning before starting captures to the latest driver that specifically mentions support for FCP 5.1. This is a Power PC Dual 2.0.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[David Roth Weiss] “No matter what I did or how I logged (I know of the Capture Now issues), some captures wound up with audio at 47.873 khz or there abouts. You couldn’t do that with a Sony deck if you tried. In any case, though my experience doesn’t directly apply to your scenario, it is indicative of some problems that exist bewteen Pany decks and FCP.”
Haven’t seen anything like that here. This is all the exact same issue with 720p that was prevelant in FCP 5.0 – 5.0.2 when 720p SDI captures did not capture correctly at all. It was the same error message but back then, subclips would show up in the bin which I had to trash and go out to the harddrive and bring in the correct clips. This time it’s just a false error so far.
Connectivity and capture between the 1200A and FCP has been very good so far. It’s how FCP is handling the file management after the capture that seems to have been screwed up again with 5.1, at least on my Power PC machines.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Ok, I take it back. It’s NOT a false error, it’s exactly the same capture problem from FCP 5.0 – 5.0.3.
If you capture 720p via HD-SDI, FCP 5.1 will NOT reconnect your media correctly. What you will end up with is a double length clip in your bin with the 2nd half of it black. You will need to throw away all of your clips in your Bin and re-import everything from your hard drive to fix this.
This is the same issue that took Apple almost 7 months to correct before so just be aware that you will need to work around this in 720.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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You know, the last time I did this, I heard some 1,500+ feedback reports were sent in over just a few days and Apple addressed and fixed the 720p SDI capture issue in about 2 weeks. So you think we can get 2500 this time? Tell all your friends and neighbors to send in a feedback report on this issue because it would be nice to get it addressed in less than 6 months this time.
Just like the last time, I’ve provided a comment form for you here to send along and like the last time, let’s keep all the comments clean and respectful to the team. I know they’re all hard working people just like the rest of us. Also keep in mind that this is broken in FCP 5.1, if you’re running 5.0.4, be happy you are and just stay there if you need to capture 720p HD-SDI.
Start by going to feedback page:
https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.htmlFeedback Type: Bug Report
Which area of the application are you providing feedback on?: Capture / Import
Subject: 720p HD-SDI Capture Not Re-Linking properly
Comments:
Any Batch Capture or Clip Capture of 720p material using HD-SDI inputs will result in FCP incorrectly connecting to the media files at the end of the captures. FCP will display the error, “An unknown error occured while trying to reconnect ____ to the newly captured media….”Clicking Continue will result in all of the clips in the bins showing up as twice their actual capture length. The 2nd half of all clips will be black. For instance if a 5 second piece of media is captured, a 10 second clip will appear in the bin. The first five seconds are the actual media and the last 5 seconds is just black.
If you then select all of the captured media in the bin and go to File > Reconnect Media FCP will show that there is an Online File with the correct file name located on the correct harddrive, and also an Offline File with the exact same filename located in an “unspecified path.” Doing a Search on the Online Media will correctly re-link all of the clips in the media with the actual media on the hard drive. When FCP wants to search again on the “unspecified path,” click “Try Again” to ignore this and all of the media in the bins will then display all the clips and media correctly.
This issue was addressed and fixed in FCP 5.0.4 but has re-appeared in FCP 5.1. Please correct this issue ASAP. Thank you!
Version of Final Cut Pro? 5.1
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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I put in a word for you, Walter! I always support the need to working software. I currently don’t work in the 720p arena yet but I’m sure it will come soon.
To add to this problem, I found one that is just as important. My company currently uses the XDCAM system (seroiusly looking at XD HD) and FCP claims to have full support for IMX and XDCAM. Not so! I just installed FCP 5.1 and found out that I have less support than I did in 5.0.4. Strange isn’t it?
I have a theory here as to what happened… I think Apple grabbed an earlier version of FCP and fixed the problems that people complained about. While completely forgetting that version 5.0.4 fixed other problems. I have started noticing the problem with 5.1 are the same problems we had with 5.0 – 5.0.3. I think Apple dropped the bomb on us with this one.
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Just an update to all. After trashing my prefs (again) this morning, the HD captures seem to be working correctly.
But anything that’s upconverted from SD to HD on the way in is exhibiting all the behaviors I described. Working with several folks now to track down the issue. Will update you as we go, thanks for all the feedback so far!
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Further Update – Issue has been resolved. It required a full removal of FCP and all its components and I also removed all the AJA Kona drivers. There is a checkbox in the new Kona Control Panels specific for FCP 5.1 compatibility. Thought that was it this morning, but it didn’t help.
So we did a full removal of everything, ran Disk Warrior on the hard drive, and re-install of all the components. Everything is working normally now. As soon as this project is done, we’ll go back and do a full Erase and Install of everything from the ground up.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Well now the issue re-appeared and we’ve tracked it down to anything that’s brought in via Automatic Duck from an Avid timeline. The Duck recently shipped the new version 2.0 of the Pro Importer for FCP and it appears to have affected how recaptures are performed via FCP.
Anything logged and captured within FCP is 100% correct. Any OMF’s that are imported from Avid via the Duck results in captures that are always with 3 audio channels and with clips that appear twice the length they really are. The workaround is to manually Reconnect all media after the batch capture.
Have forwarded all the information to Wes Plate and I’m sure he’ll get it figured out shortly.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comDirector, “The Rough Cut”
https://www.theroughcutmovie.comNow Posting “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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