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Sequence within a sequence and deleting unused footage
Hope you are all having a GREAT day!
First question – I’ve got twenty 3 min sequences (interviews) laid into a master 60 min sequence. When I open an smaller sequence (A, in this case)from within the master and edit/tweak it, if find that the original sequence “A” (in the bin) is not altered. I always thought by double clicking on a sequence within a sequence you were opening and altering the original. If it doesn’t work this way it’s pretty screwy, because I am ending up with multiple sequence “A”‘s – the original in the bin and the altered one from the sequence.
Second, these are 3 min interviews with 50- 75% of a talking head covered with B-Roll, so I’ve got roughly 5 min of raw video on my hard drive per 3 min sequence. What is the best way to get rid of the media I’ve covered with B-Roll (thus saving disc space)without recapturing?
Thanks for all you do!
-Mike
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There are 2 scenarios for a sequence within a sequence. I forget which works which way. Just do a test. If you copy and paste a nested sequence, it either creates a seq that links back to the original or it doesn’t. And if you option+drag (what I usually do) a nested sequence to copy and paste it it does the other. I’m sure the same is true for other situations, like copying and pasting seqs in a bin, or option dragging, or duplicating.
When it creates a sequence that doesn’t link back to the original, it’s kind of a sequence in limbo. It exists ONLY in the timeline. If you want to have a copy in the bin, drag it from the seq to a bin. Then open it. Then open the one in the timeline and make sure it opens the same sequence.
Once you’ve got all that figured out, beware that “find unused media” will not apply to nested sequences. It will see the media they use as UNUSED, and if you delete it to clear up HD space, you’ll be kicking yourself. Best to select the nested sequence as well when you do a find unused function. Then do some diligent checking and make sure it’s all good. Just for safety’s sake I’d only delete items that have TC and can be recaptured easily if there’s a mistake.
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It’s a nested sequence kinda night….
IMHO, nested sequences cause no end of problems especially with attempts to media manage. When you drag a sequence into another, you create a new version of it that exists as ‘sequence x in sequence y’ in FCP, in the same way as ‘clip cam x in sequence 18’ is different from the original ‘clip cam x’ in the browser.
If you REALLY want to avoid these problems, select all, copy and paste each interview (in it’s original multi-clip, multilayer form) in turn into a new sequence, so you have a master, un-nested ‘compile’ sequence. It won’t take long once you get into a rythym.. Less time than recovering and recapturing your lost media, anyway.
Nesting isn’t FCP’s greatest hour, is it? It may be that 3 hours of completing links in a DVDSP project has warped my fragile little mind, however.
Ben
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Actually, as long as you drag a sequence from a bin into another sequence, just like a clip, it retains it’s relationship to the sequence in the bin. In other words, you can open the sequence in the bin, edit it, and it will be updated in the sequence.
If you copy and paste a nested sequence, it will create a new version that doesn’t exist in a bin anywhere. Don’t do that if you require the above functionality.
If you option+drag a nested sequnce it will also create a new version that doesn’t exist in a bin anywhere.
One of the two above used to actually create a duplicate that linked back to the original, but it appears after a quick test that that funciton has vanished.
Also, if you duplicate a sequence that has a nested sequnce within it, the new duplicate sequence will have a version of the nested sequence within it that also exists nowhere in a bin.
FCP really should address this. The default should be that a nested seqeunce always links back to the original imho.
The only way to have a sequence link back to the one in the bin is to edit it from the bin into the sequence.
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