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  • Posted by Jamie Worsfold on December 9, 2005 at 4:30 pm

    Does anyone know if there’s any plugins for Final Cut that can do a true ARC? I’ve got a project coming up which has some of the footage shot 4:3 whereas everything else is 16:9 (I didn’t do it!!!!).

    It’s fairly low budget so they haven’t got much cash. Though if a proper ARC is required then they’d best find some to do it properly! 🙂

    Vesna Svilanovic replied 17 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Mark Maness

    December 9, 2005 at 5:40 pm

    Which way are you going?

    Are you editing in 4×3 or 16×9?

    If your in 16×9, then there’s no problem at all. Just drop the widescreen matte filter on your video and choose 1.78 to 1 as your aspect ratio (but do this before you add the filter to your video clips so that you don’t have to do this each and every time).

    Now, if you are editing 4×3 and want your 16×9 as full screen video, you’ll have to change some settings in your motion tab to match your video without degrading it. You have to change you distort tab to these numbers:

    Upper Left: -480 -240 or -243
    Upper Right: 480 -240 or -243
    Lower Right: 480 240 or 243
    Lower Left: -480 240 or 243
    Aspect Ratio: 0

    Now that you’ve done this, you can save this motion as a favorite and then you can use it over and over without having to enter this every time.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions

  • Vladislav

    December 9, 2005 at 5:59 pm

    I have a question similar to this, we also have 16×9 hdv footage and some 4×3 DV footage.
    We’d like to incorporate some of the 4×3 dv stuff in this project, what is the formula to stretch 4×3 stuff to be anamorphic? Or is there some kind of filter? Software that does that? We don’t want to just letterbox it.

    Thanks
    Vlad

  • Will Keir

    December 21, 2005 at 2:42 am

    I was also hoping that someone would have an answer to this question.

    I too have a project primarily shot in 16×9 on a Cannon XL-2, but unfortunately our DP hit the 4:3 switch and we are trying to make the 4:3 footage works in our 16:9 timeline.

    I’ve been trying several different methods of making the 4:3 footage works, but without stretching or blowing up the image, I have been unable to find a solution.

    I’ve captured the footage both in anamorphic and regular NTSC but I can’t seem to get rid of the side bars without compromising the resolution.

    The only option I have found that might work is to edit in a 4:3 timeline, thus the 4:3 footage works, and put a widescreen matte on the 16:9 footage. I would prefer not to do this, but do I have a better option?

    Thank you so much for any help,

    Will Keir
    production@theridgeboysmovie.com

  • Valerie

    October 26, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    Hey all!

    What is the better way to combine DV and HDV footage into one DVD that can play on both HD televisions and standard televisions, without black space on the sides of the picture?

    I have edited both DV and HDV clips in HD (1440×1080) 16:9 sequence settings– (anamorphic 16:9 not checked)- I created a new sequence to paste my already edited timeline into – – as is outlined in another post below, and will likely create the DVD in Studio Pro. (or iDVD)

    Is there a difference in these methods?

    Does one way create more distortion than the other?

    Do both ways eliminate black space around the picture?

    I’d like to put the footage through the least amount of processing as I can. (see post below to compare.) What is the better approach?

    Thanks, V.

    Date: Feb 8, 2006 at 12:39:55 pm
    Subject: Re: How to burn HDV footage onto a standard DVD

    In your HDV timeline, select all and copy. Put the footage in a newly created DV sequence. Change the pixel aspect ratio to square and checkmark the anamorphic 16:9 box in the sequence settings. Down the bottom of the sequence settings, click Advanced under the compressor settings and change it from 4:3 to 16:9. Close out the sequence settings.

    You’ll see the red line in the timeline indicating you have to render, and the footage in your canvas will look scrunched. Don’t worry about that, you won’t actually be using this timeline for anything.

    Set an In point at the beginning of your footage and an Out point at the end. Go to File>>Export>>Quicktime Movie. Make sure Current Settings and Make Movie Self-Contained are selected. Export the movie to a selected spot on your hard drive. This is the file you’ll bring into DVD Studio Pro.

    Take a deep breath.

    Open DVD Studio Pro and import the footage. After you create your menu and associate your Track to it, click on the Graphical tab (in the window where it has Menu, Slideshow, Viewer, and Graphical tabs). Click on the Track icon. Now, in the Inspector window, set the Display Mode to 16:9 letterbox. Go back to the Viewer tab, click the Settings drop down menu and select Rectangular pixels. When you view the footage by playing the track or using Simulate, the footage will appear to be streched vertically a little bit (people will appear a little taller and skinnier than normal). Don’t panic. Go to your DVD Studio Pro>>Preferences>>Encoding>>MPEG-2 SD window and setting your encoding preferences to 4:3 aspect ratio, Field Order: Auto, Mode: One Pass (if your project is less than an hour) Two Pass VBR (if your project is more than an hour)and Bit Rate and Max Bit Rate around 6.8. Motion Estimation: Best. Burn your DVD (or Build/Build and Format, whatever your choice)

    When you play it back on a standard DVD player and regular TV the aspect ratio of the footage will be correct and letterboxed. On an HDTV it should fill the entire space with no letterboxing. If the aspect ratio looks correct when you Simulate, it will looked slightly scrunched vertically on a regular TV (people will look a little shorter and stockier. Not really sure why, but it does that.)

    Good luck.

  • Valerie

    October 26, 2007 at 9:38 pm

    Hey all!

    What is the better way to combine DV and HDV footage into one DVD that can play on both HD televisions and standard televisions, without black space on the sides of the picture?

    I have edited both DV and HDV clips in HD (1440×1080) 16:9 sequence settings– (anamorphic 16:9 not checked)- I created a new sequence to paste my already edited timeline into – – as is outlined in another post below, and will likely create the DVD in Studio Pro. (or iDVD)

    Is there a difference in these methods?

    Does one way create more distortion than the other?

    Do both ways eliminate black space around the picture?

    I’d like to put the footage through the least amount of processing as I can. (see post below to compare.) What is the better approach?

    Thanks, V.

    Date: Feb 8, 2006 at 12:39:55 pm
    Subject: Re: How to burn HDV footage onto a standard DVD

    In your HDV timeline, select all and copy. Put the footage in a newly created DV sequence. Change the pixel aspect ratio to square and checkmark the anamorphic 16:9 box in the sequence settings. Down the bottom of the sequence settings, click Advanced under the compressor settings and change it from 4:3 to 16:9. Close out the sequence settings.

    You’ll see the red line in the timeline indicating you have to render, and the footage in your canvas will look scrunched. Don’t worry about that, you won’t actually be using this timeline for anything.

    Set an In point at the beginning of your footage and an Out point at the end. Go to File>>Export>>Quicktime Movie. Make sure Current Settings and Make Movie Self-Contained are selected. Export the movie to a selected spot on your hard drive. This is the file you’ll bring into DVD Studio Pro.

    Take a deep breath.

    Open DVD Studio Pro and import the footage. After you create your menu and associate your Track to it, click on the Graphical tab (in the window where it has Menu, Slideshow, Viewer, and Graphical tabs). Click on the Track icon. Now, in the Inspector window, set the Display Mode to 16:9 letterbox. Go back to the Viewer tab, click the Settings drop down menu and select Rectangular pixels. When you view the footage by playing the track or using Simulate, the footage will appear to be streched vertically a little bit (people will appear a little taller and skinnier than normal). Don’t panic. Go to your DVD Studio Pro>>Preferences>>Encoding>>MPEG-2 SD window and setting your encoding preferences to 4:3 aspect ratio, Field Order: Auto, Mode: One Pass (if your project is less than an hour) Two Pass VBR (if your project is more than an hour)and Bit Rate and Max Bit Rate around 6.8. Motion Estimation: Best. Burn your DVD (or Build/Build and Format, whatever your choice)

    When you play it back on a standard DVD player and regular TV the aspect ratio of the footage will be correct and letterboxed. On an HDTV it should fill the entire space with no letterboxing. If the aspect ratio looks correct when you Simulate, it will looked slightly scrunched vertically on a regular TV (people will look a little shorter and stockier. Not really sure why, but it does that.)

    Good luck.

  • Vesna Svilanovic

    June 25, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    I have HD footage imported as a P2 file. Frame size setting is HD (960×720) 16:9. It looks and plays fine but it was shot sideways to acheive the maximum hight of the frame. When I rotate it in order to cut it, it becomes squeezed. I tried a variation of frame sizes but I can not get the image to look unsqueezed. Any advice?

    Thank you

    Vesna

  • Mark Maness

    June 25, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Well…. when you rotate an object, you’re going to either have black bars on the sides for full frame or if you fill the frame without zooming in, its going to look squeezed.

    We need more info to help you better. What codec are you using? What is your final output? Explain why you are shooting something sideways.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com
    https://blogs.creativecow.net/waynecarey

  • Vesna Svilanovic

    June 25, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Thank you for the quick respons. I just figured out that if I rotate the frame using the motion rotation instead of the video filter the image looks fine. I am not sure what will that do to the final output.
    It was shot sideways to acheave the maximum hight of the frame.

    Vesna

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