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FCP VS Liquid
The company I work for needs a new edit system. We have been using Edit* 5.0 (3.0 up to 5.0) for the last 6 years
and really love the user interface this system has.
However it is time to move on.
I am also editing on FCP (my personel system) while my co-editor uses
Pinnacles Liquid System.
He says it is the best thing since Edit* and I trust his opinion, but don’t know enough about it to
really take a firm stance either way.
I favor FCP since this is what I am familiar with and really like the flexability and progams like Motion, Studio Pro & LiveType.
I know AVID bought Pinnacle and the future may be a bit uncertain and I also know this is a FCP fourm and the
vast consenous will be for FCP but does anyone know a reason why the Pinnacle system would be a bad idea or just not as good as FCP? -
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Randy,
I worked on Discreet Edit for about a hundred and ten years, now I’m working on FCP. It works for me and obviously lots and lots of others. In fact, if your boss ever wants to hire additional editors with training and experience, then FCP is undoubtedly the ticket over Liquid. I would estimate that for every trained Liquid editor on the planet there are probably several thousand FCP editors.
You might also point out to your boss that Walter Murch cut Cold Mountain last year, and now Jarhead this year on FCP, and that hundreds of feature film and TV companies in Hollywood are also switching over to FCP from Avid. Can you name a feature or a TV show cut on Liquid? FCP really does seem to be quickly becoming the industry editing standard. You can always buck the trend and go with something else, but why???
DRW
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David,
Thanks for the ammo, my boss is very cost conscious and the experienced editor pool is a good point.
Randy
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[Randy] “He says it is the best thing since Edit*”
Um, no it’s not. And has he worked on anything else?
As someone who’s also come from an edit (and Avid) background, and has had hands on experience with Liquid, I can honestly say that while there are some nice features in Liquid (actually mainly one – background rendering), it’s appeal is really for someone who’s married to the right click workflow from discreet edit. That’s really it. Liquid certainly doesn’t “suck” but it also doesn’t compare to FCP (or Avid) for compositing, let alone the integration of Motion & Soundtrack Pro (the “Fuse” workflow in Liquid is, IMHO, very inferior). One more thing – its 6.0 UI is also about the ugliest NLE UI that I’ve ever seen.
The other reality is why would your company invest in a product with an unknown future?
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You’ve been bitten once by *edit being dropped, do you want to chance being left stranded again with Liquid? I think it’s too risky. I’ve used Liquid and it is does have some really nice features but FCP has a far more exciting and secure future.
Martin
Digital Heaven, London UK
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[Randy] “I am also editing on FCP (my personel system) while my co-editor uses
Pinnacles Liquid System.”I would not purchase anything from Pinnacle at this time until you find out how the AVID merger will play out. AVID alreaady has a decent NLE so I’m not sure what the incentive would be to keep the Liquid product line. More than likely they will take what they like from Liquid and try to move all Liquid owners to AVID, for a nice upgrade fee of course.
Pinnacle made the CineWave card for about four years for FCP and have now dropped that product so I would wait until at least NAB 2006 before making any investment in Pinnacle/AVID.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
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Thanks for the advice…
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