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Sony HDV with a 24fps look
Anyone happy with a particular plugin for giving HDV footage (forget that cineframe look setting from sony) a 24 frame appearance. Not looking to film out, just a pleasing 24 frame look for video out. Thanks.
Richard Boghosian
Bogh AV Productions -
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Film Effects at http://www.nattress.com will do the trick for you! THe New 2.5.1 version works great with HDV.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Or you could just shoot your footage using the 30p mode, if that’s what your looking for. Are you going to broadcast this or are you going to film? If you are going to broadcast, then shooting in the 30p mode looks great. We do it all the time.
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Wayne Carey
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I have to agree that the cineframe 30 mode looks like you shot it in film somewhere betweeen 30 frames and 24 but you get the same stutter look of film shot at 24. Just like film cameras, this is most noticable doing Pans as opposed to up and down camera motion (tilts). I would recommend that you also color correct for a more saturated look or that you make those adjustments in the camera. I have a Sony HVRZ1U and I have chosen to do a bit of both. I’ve adjusted the camera to look a lot more like film saturation levels and stretched the blacks as well for improved contrast. I can always go back later and go tor a high contrast look if I want to do that. Capturing the original footage closer to the look I want saves me some time in post. However if you really want to make the footage look “right” then count on a few hours doing color correction for the best result.
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Thanks for all your input, but again I have to say that the Sony Cineframe look is not pleasing to my eye. And if the client hates it too, well it’s been shot that way, so that’s the end. I’ve downloaded a demo of the Nattress film look filters, but the rendering time is much too long for practical use. Someday someone is going to build an external box for the G-5 to speed up rendering, soon I hope. If Apple made the G-5 twice as fast, it wouldn’t be fast enough for FCP. Canopus has the right idea, a fast codec, a capture card with video acceration, and many off speed, chroma key, and PIP effects in real time.
Richard Boghosian
Bogh AV Productions -
I don’t see what you have against it. If nobody had told you that it was HDV or shot in the cineframe, would you have been able to tell it from film? That is assuming that you have the camera setup properly and the correct color and gamma settings for film style cineframe. I would be pressed to say that some people in Hollywood would have a hard time tell the difference. Only a trained person in film would know. Like I said, if you have it setup properly for the film style settings.
Next… The Nattress film look filters are the fastest set of filters in the business and Graeme Nattress is always updating them for speed. You have to keep in mind the number of lines in a filter’s settings. The more lines, the more complex. You are changing almost everything about the frame from frame rate to color correction. That is extremely processor intensive. In order to process this in a reasonable amount of time that you wish, you’d need a super computer like a Kray2. You need to understand that if you want something to look a certain way and it wasn’t shot that way, its going to take time to render.
Oh yeah…. I seriously doubt that Canopus can render film effects in real time. FCP is the best in the business for the cost factor, so you really can’t compare it to another capture device since it is software only – no capture hardware. Now, you could compare it to the Decklink BlackMagic or the AJA Kona2 but not to the software only. Besides, you need to look at many factors before choosing the right platform for you and your needs. That’s why FCP is software only. You can use it for DV only or you can add a capture card to it and edit complete Hollywood movies. Can Canopus say that?
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Wayne Carey
Schazam Productions
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