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29.97 to 23.98 exhausting the possibilities
My current project will be mastered on 23.98 HD, but we are digitizing into FCP 4.1 using 29.97 DVcam. I want to make sure to edit in 23.98 to make the process easier. I have tried multiple ways of creating or modifying the clips to 23.98, but nothing seems to work consistently. I first tried to capture them using DV NTSC Advanced 2:3 pulldown removal, but it still seemed to capture the media as 29.97. I then tried to use the FCP pulldown removal function under the tools menu, but it simply said that it found nothing to remove in the clips I selected. And lastly, I attempted to use Cinema Tools to make the clips 23.98. Picking random clips, this method seems to work some of the time using reverse telecine or conform, but in others, it appeared to be removing the wrong frames, for it didn’t match up with the burned in 23.98 timecode on the clips. Unlike how it described in the Cinema Tools manual, the program never gave me the option to use a automated reverse telecine (where I assume it detects the cadence of the pulldown? – I’m rusty on all of this)- each time I changed a clip, I had to manually set what pulldown method and fields were used. I have a lot of media, but I feel like I’m at wits end trying to get all of it to the correct frame rate so I can just edit. Any help would be SO greatly appreciated.
Joel Metlen
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You haven’t said if what format your working in to start with?
Film transferred to video?
Did you shoot HD?
You can only use the remove advanced pulldown if you’re using the Panasonic 100a camcorder. If you did not…that’s it…you can’t use this.
Take a 29.97 clip… identify the A frame (if it’s film there’s burn in) if it’s plain then look for the blended frames. You’ll see two consecutive blended frames..the next frame is D, then the next frame is A. Park there. remove pulldown with cinema tools on that frame.
Just give more info
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Thanks for the response! We shot on 16mm and transferred to HDcam for masters. We may eventually go back to film if we have the money, but for now, we plan to finish on a tape to tape cut on HDcam (23.98) from our FCP EDL. Our DVcam dailies have timecode and the 23.98 timecode burn in from the HDcam master, but do not have keycode burn in. Is there any easy solution for batch changing all of the hundreds of clips quickly, or would it be better just to edit in 29.97 and accept that it may be off a frame here and there? To make sure that the sound matches up, I would definitely like to edit in 23.98, but I’m not sure what I’d have to do to make that happen.
Joel Metlen
Foxhall Films
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Playing around with cinema tools, I was able to remove the pulldown as you described and now the burn in 24 frames count up perfectly (0-23) in the new 23.98 sequence, but in at least half of the clips I reverse, the 23.98 timecode that FCP is reading is exactly 1 frame off of what the burn in is reading. Is there any setting that I’m missing or way to ensure that the two match up every time?
Joel Metlen
Foxhall Films
http://www.foxhallfilms.com
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