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DVCPROHD 1200A Edit to Tape – greyed out
Posted by Toke Trangbæk on June 29, 2005 at 9:15 amHi…
I’m in PAL country.
I have a HD sequence – 25fps. HD 1920×1080.
I have video into the deck – and I can do a print to video.
I can stripe the deck from the Edit to tape window.
I can play it back.
I can capture from it.BUT I can not do a Asemble Edit!! – When I try to drag the sequence to the Asemble Overlay all the overlays are sort of greyed out – they don’t respond to me dragging stuff there… – But I don’t get any error messages…
Any idea?
The 1200A is set to 1080i mode and 25fps
Best regards
Toke, Denmark
Gary Adcock replied 20 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 14 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
June 29, 2005 at 11:00 am[trtmac] “BUT I can not do a Asemble Edit!! – When I try to drag the sequence to the Asemble Overlay all the overlays are sort of greyed out – they don’t respond to me dragging stuff there… – But I don’t get any error messages…”
You must be Firewire Control to do an edit to the 1200A. RS-422 only works for playback. Ensure that you’re set for DVCPro HD Firewire, not DV Firewire as they are different.
Also, ensure you have an In Point in your Edit To Tape Window set.
I’ve been mastering to my 1200A for the past several days without a hitch.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Toke Trangbæk
June 29, 2005 at 11:22 amTHANKS a lot! – How simple once you know it! – But WHY? – Why doesn’t RS-422 work?? Well now I know!
Thanks a bunch!
Best regards
Toke
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Walter Biscardi
June 29, 2005 at 11:55 am[trtmac] “But WHY? – Why doesn’t RS-422 work?? Well now I know!”
According to Panasonic, the 1200A only has one set of electronics so the RS-422 is designed to work only with playback. What does this mean? I have no clue. Seems to me a very basic design feature to have RS-422 work for both playback and record, heck even my old $6,000 UVW-1800 Beta Deck can do that one.
But the Firewire control works quite well so be happy you can actually record on this thing. For a while there we had some folks in the Varicam forum insisting that Assemble edit was impossible on this deck. Thank goodness that was wrong.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Toke Trangbæk
June 29, 2005 at 12:06 pmHi again Walter
You really seem to know quite a lot about the 1200A…
Have you heard anything regarding the issue with not being able to capture 25fps footage via firewire?? It’s really a big issue for us here in PAL country!
/toke
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Walter Biscardi
June 29, 2005 at 1:05 pmYou probably need to make a custom set up for Capture. I just looked at the Capture Presets and you can create a custom setup with 25fps as the frame rate. I have 25fps footage from our independent film and plan to try this in a few weeks.
I’ve owned the deck for about 3 months now so I’m learning a lot in “trial by fire.” 🙂
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Toke Trangbæk
June 29, 2005 at 1:17 pmI really don’t think it’s possible… But if you figure something out please let me know! – I havn’t heard of anyone doing this over firewire without loosing sound and timecode and all sort of hassles…
But if you have any input please don’t hesitate to contact me at: toke @ f-film.com
Best regards
Toke
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Gary Adcock
June 29, 2005 at 1:45 pm[walter biscardi] ” I just looked at the Capture Presets and you can create a custom setup with 25fps as the frame rate. I have 25fps footage from our independent film and plan to try this in a few weeks. “
It will not give you the proper results over FW (sorry walter) the Varicam captures the content based on 24fps and the 25fps capture is not an easy set up option because the deck is looking for 24 frame flags.your are going to have to go thru the 24 – 25 slip or use the Frame Rate Converter plugin.
the other option is a Kona Card – it will allow you to capture at 25fps direct from tape.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation -
Otis F
June 29, 2005 at 4:12 pmHello All,
This Varicam/DVCPro HD format is driving me batty, I keep getting conflicting stories as to how it works with FCP. I am also in Pal country (England), and was planning on editing a piece shot on a Varicam at various frame rates. Most of the footage has been shot at 25p, but there are some 50 and 60p stuff as well. I planned on going down the firewire/native codec route but now I discover that this isn’t possible at 25p- it seems that this format isn’t ready yet for a Pal workflow using FCP, can someone let me know when this will change? So my options now are to go in via my Kona 2, but I’ll have to downconvert as I don’t have a fast enough Raid for HD/SDI. Then I’ll have to get the online done elsewhere at great expense. Do you still need the FRC when you go in HD/SDI?
I’m starting to wonder what the hell I bought that 30″ Apple HD monitor and the Blackmagic HDlink for?!
Please help me I’m drowning.
Cheers
Otis F
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Walter Biscardi
June 29, 2005 at 6:26 pm[Otis F] “Please help me I’m drowning.”
You can use the free Frame RAte Converter tool from Panasonic / Apple to bring your footage back to 25fps after it’s been captured. That way you can use the Firewire workflow, but you’ll need to manually change each shot to 25. It’s cheaper than using the Kona 2, etc….
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Gary Adcock
June 29, 2005 at 6:55 pm[Otis F] ” I am also in Pal country (England), and was planning on editing a piece shot on a Varicam at various frame rates. Most of the footage has been shot at 25p, but there are some 50 and 60p stuff as well. I planned on going down the firewire/native codec route but now I discover that this isn’t possible at 25p- it seems that this format isn’t ready yet for a Pal workflow using FCP”
it is not an FCP thing but related more to the adoption rate of HD in PAL countries. The Varicam was based on 24 frame film settings not a video standard. That said the Varicam was released in the US nearly 4 years ago, and are only becoming popular in the EU in the last 2. Blame the the ( less than) almighty Dollar ( insert yen | euro| pound in the appropriate currency for your country)
IF you think this is bad– understand also that what we do in FCP with Variable frame rates can not be done at all an Avid without the $27K hardware frame rate converter as the Avid Software only see 24p and 30p content from the Varicam.
gary adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
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