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  • MediaMangler + copied sequence = lost audio sync! Blue bars on audio?

    Posted by Bob Woodhead on June 14, 2005 at 11:57 am

    Finished (yeah right) a project, used MediaMangler to copy the master sequences into a new project (with media, render files, :01 handles) onto an external drive. Flash-forward some weeks, client loved it so much, top brass had to revise it (of course), so file-copied the MM-created project & all folders back to online RAID. With the exception of a freeze-frame from a rendered graphic, everything connected & appeared fine. But, playing through, any of the interview audio clips that had a filter applied (Apple EQ) had a blue bar at the top of the clip in the timeline – not ABOVE the timeline, where “render status” bars appear, but on the top of the clip itself. AND, those clips were out of sync with their interview video (by a second or so)! WTF? Even stranger, almost all the VO audio clips had the same blue bar, even though there were no filters applied, and – the audio appeared to be IN SYNC. I say in sync because even with very tight VO edits, nothing was truncated/upcut, and it lined up to where it should be. When the audio filters were deleted from the clip, audio was back in sync. Obviously an audio render file issue w/ MM.
    But I’ve never seen/noticed these blue bars on the top of audio clips before – what do they indicate? Couldn’t find any mention of them in searches.
    So what gives? I do a very simple MediaMangler operation, and my project comes back corrupted. Oh yeah, during the recent Apple FCP5 seminar I asked the demonstrator if MM had been fixed in 5 and his answer was “it still has problems…”. Great. So why doesn’t Apple officially change the tool’s name to Media Mangler? It certainly would be truth in advertising.

    Bob Woodhead / Atlanta
    Quantel-Avid-FCP-3D-Crayola
    G5 DP 2G, 10.3.4, 3.5GB RAM, FCP 4.5, Aja IO, Huge 320R [raid3]

    Naz replied 20 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    June 14, 2005 at 12:01 pm

    The blue bars in the audio clips indicate that their khz isn’t the same as the sequence’s setting… could be why you are out of sync too…

    Jerry

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  • Bob Woodhead

    June 14, 2005 at 12:25 pm

    Aha! Now where *is* that info actually written? Grin… maybe I need to buy your book, as it’s NOWHERE in the FCP docs! “The Secret Files of Jerry H… tonight on FCP Mysteries”.

    But here’s the fun part – while the VO was indeed 44kHz in a 48kHz timeline (and showing the bars as you said), all the interview audio (whose EQ’d parts lost sync) was all 48kHz.

  • Neal Broffman

    June 14, 2005 at 12:44 pm

    I’ve had this problem virtually everytime I use MM, audio sync loss. I re-render the offending clips (ones with audio filters applied) and everything ids fine. Not an explanation but a way to make it work.

  • Naz

    June 14, 2005 at 7:26 pm

    maybe MM corrupts some headers… try to look on files with pro audio software, like iTunes =)

    All the best, sorry for my english

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