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View uncompressed on TV set
Hi,
Is it possible to view the picture from FCP on a TV set if the codec is uncompressed without any videocard like blackmagic. I have only the grafic card ATI Radeon 9600 XT. Maybe via a DV camera with firewire.
Thanks
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The only way to view uncompressed footage on an external monitor is with a capture card that can view the uncompressed codec, ie a decklink card if the footage was captured with the deckink card.
Only DV footage, and DVCPRO 25, 50 and DVCPRO HD…all footage captured via firewire…are viewable thru the firewire connection.
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You don’t have to use a video card, you can also use the Io from AJA. It will connect via firewire and supports uncompressed video. They also make just a digital or analog versions for under $1000. But a Blackmagic card maybe cheaper at $295, but it may only be digital (I am not sure off hand). And if you just want to monitor video you probably are looking for analog anyway.
Jared
Idea Spring Editing, Inc.
Denver Final Cut Pro UG -
Actually, you dont need an IO for this either. The uncompressed 8 bit and 10 bit codecs play out over firewire in FCP HD, if your computer is fast enough.
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YOU CAN?
Wow…news to me. Never heard of such a thing….
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No you cannot play uncompressed video out firewire. You may be able to use a firewire hard drive to play uncompressed video, but to monitor it you need a video card or the Io. With the Io the uncompressed video does go down the firewire cable, but you need the Io device to covert the raw data to a video signal a monitor can see.
Jared
Idea Spring Editing, Inc.
Denver Final Cut Pro UG -
Well what kind of TV is it? Does it have a DVI or component input? If it has DVI you can plug the TV into the Mac as if it were your computer monitor and then use Cinema Desktop to view the footage. If it has component input, you can get an RGB->YPrPb transcoder and plug the TV into the VGA port (decent transocders are expensive – you may as well buy a Blackmagic card at that point). There is a program that will adjust the resolution and timing of your graphics card (ATI or Nvidia) so that it matches broadcast standards. The program that does this for Windows is called Powerstrip. There is one for OSX but I forget what it’s called… sorry. Try Google or the AVSForum. Whether the color is exact and things like that, I don’t know. It may not be what’s refered to as “WYSIWYG”. I don’t know enough about how Cinema Desktop works. For WYSIWYG you probably need an editing card.
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Be careful here. True NTSC video cannot be displayed on a computer monitor. It is a preview but it is not what what would go to tape. The only real way to monitor is with a video card (ie blackmagic or Kona) or a device like the AJA Io.
While the cinema desktop feature is cool, it is not an accurate preview. For the best result you should use a professional broadcast monitor that is calibrated correctly.
Now if you just want to see the video on a screen and don’t care about color, fields (interlacing) or an accurate playback speed, then these other solutions can work. Just don’t trust them to be accurate.
Jared
Idea Spring Editing, Inc.
Denver Final Cut Pro UG -
Hi,
I have a dual 2,5 G5, so it’s fast enough. But my TV set is just an average phillips with no DVI, but scart and phono input.
So there is no other way around it other that buying a IO card?
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No way around it. Usually the only way you get uncompressed video INTO your system is with the card…any only it can view the footage that was captured.
How are you getting the uncompressed footage?
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Well now I am thinking about buying a decklink sp pro card and renting a sony player. But I had the idea before to rent a AJA kit (it’s possible) or paying a posthouse to record my material for me. Is AJA uncompressed, Blackmagic uncompressed and Apple uncompressed the same codec? Are they convertable.
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