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Prelude: multiple ingests from one clip?
NOOB ALERT:
How does one grab more than one bit from a single given clip?
Thanks!
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“Putting the HARM in ‘harmonica’ since 2005.”
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Welcome Eric.
Generally, one ingests the entire clip – and then has the option to use sections of it multiple times during the editorial process.
For example, I have an interview from an camera that is 3 clips…but 10 questions were asked.
It’s likely I’ll bring in all three clips, possibly make ‘subclips’ – a virtual representation of just part one clip – say each interview question and build a bin of original clips (the 3 clips) and 10 subclips the interview questions.
There’s a more nuanced version of this answer, but I figured this was a good place to start.
Best,
Jeff I. Greenberg
Author/Master Instructor/Speaker/Consulting
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Thanks for the reply!
I was hoping that, with the capabilities in Prelude to have “partial Ingestion” (ha!), that Adobe might also have included “multiple partial ingestions”, but it sounds like they didn’t.
EG, in your example, there would be a lot of wasted disk storage full of useless chaff, just to get the multiple kernels of valuable footage. While subclips would helpfully isolate The Good Stuff, you’d still be stuck with all the chaff.
It seems like Partial Ingestion is only good for discarding the unused headers/trailers of a clip. Is that accurate?
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“Putting the HARM in ‘harmonica’ since 2005.”
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Eric,
So, I am very, very careful around partial ingestion. Mostly, because it’s going to force a transcode (a good thing).
Many of the file based camera formats use a very lossy compression – meaning you can only ‘snip’ at certain moments (and that’d require analysis!)
Prelude permits a partial ingest of only one in and out. It seems to be writing new metadata (to some degree, I think that’s the right thing to do, because there’s enough differentiation of the new media to the old.)
[Eric Chard] ” EG, in your example, there would be a lot of wasted disk storage full of useless chaff, just to get the multiple kernels of valuable footage. While subclips would helpfully isolate The Good Stuff, you’d still be stuck with all the chaff.”
Just a couple of thoughts…
Yup, lots of wasted disk space.
Disk space is pretty cheap and if I shot it, I shouldn’t overshoot. There’s a bad habit I see with file based cameras is the tendency to come back with 40 hours of footage for a 4 minute piece.
So, From the “Don’t edit before you edit philosophy, if you shot it, I want it.” If someone else shot the footage, shouldn’t there be a cost to them for overshooting? Whether it’s my time, hard drive space, etc?
The single ingest is (most likely) a design of lopping off of some of the head or tail of a clip, just to shorten it’s overall length. We’re suddenly going to pay the price of a transcode to do this (which should be building a less compressed file as well.
Last, this is version 1.0 of Adobe Prelude. I’m sure the next several iterations, we’ll see you some of these features like multiple partial ingests allow.
Best,
Jeff I. Greenberg
Author/Master Instructor/Speaker/Consulting
My contact info and more
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