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A Couple of Premiere Questions from a Vegas User making the transition
Good morning, everyone.
I’ve been working in the industry for quite a while, but have somehow managed to stick with Sony Vegas as my primary NLE for all of this time, but I think the time has come to make the switch to Adobe Premiere CS2014.
I’m very used to the “non destructive” timeline in Sony, and I’m wondering if there are some quick settings I could change to make Premiere work in a fashion that I’m a little more familiar with:
1. When I move a clip into another one on the Premiere timeline, it seems to “eat” the other clip next to it, leaving portions of the clip removed even when I move the overlapping clip off. Is there a way that I can prevent this behavior? I don’t really understand the use for this- it seems to just create more work.
2. I adore the automatic crossfade feature in Vegas, where you can drag two clips together to create a fade between two items and make rapid adjustments by simply moving the clips. I feel that it allows for more creativity during the edit, especially when it comes to audio. Someone had told me that Premiere had implemented this feature using the keyboard shortcut, “Control, Shift, D” but so far it hasn’t clicked for me. Is there any way in Premiere to generate these fades between audio files (video would be nice, but I’m not looking for a miracle) in a more intuitive and simple way?
I also have the option at work to switch to Final Cut Pro X. Do any of you familiar with either programs know if these features are available on that platform?
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8 Replies
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Hi…
If you want to “overwrite edit” (non time ripping edit) and not eat other clips, edit to higher track as they have precedence.
there is no correlation too the Vegas function where media overlaps automagically create audio fade and transitions.
the keyboard shortcut you describe will apply the default video transition to edit points selected on the timeline.
There are separate shortcuts for quick adding video and audio transitions.
if you multi select edits and use the keyboard shortcuts, it will add the transitions to all the selected cuts.
Realize that Vegas came from the Soundforge base code…so much of that behavior came from a DAW mindset that was extended to video editing.
PPro didn’t start with that pedigree…so that mindset is not pervasive…(but that functionality does live in Adobe Audition (Adobe’s DAW), for example.
But I say….make the requests….because Adobe does listen…and the more ppl who make the request…the more likely it is to get implemented…
HTH,
Alex Udell
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[Franz Vorenkamp] “When I move a clip into another one on the Premiere timeline, it seems to “eat” the other clip next to it, leaving portions of the clip removed even when I move the overlapping clip off. Is there a way that I can prevent this behavior?”
If I understand what you’re trying to do correctly, just press the Ctrl key as you move the clip.
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well yes….insert or overwrite edit? that’s the question….
Alex Udell
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Hey Robert….
i think what he means is that when you do an overwrite in PPro…and then you remove that clip the media of the source remaining source clip is not reposed as a contiguous clip again. Instead, it remains as 2 orphaned segments with a gap in the middle…
As opposed to something like Audition….where if you remove the clip…the contiguous remaining source use is restored in the multi-track…
Alex Udell
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Thanks Alex, that makes sense.
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[Franz Vorenkamp] “I also have the option at work to switch to Final Cut Pro X. Do any of you familiar with either programs know if these features are available on that platform?”
My guess is that FCPX will be closer to what you want. In their timeline clips never “eat” each other – they automatically slide to a higher or lower lane when conflicts arise. I believe each clip has built in fade handles as well.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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Hi Franz,
I am in the same boat. Have been using Sony Vegas since I started with video editing and find it much easier to chop up and fade together video and audio. However have found it necessary to move to Premiere due to the superior colour correction and colour grading options it has available.
However, I am astonished that Premiere has no option to edit the simple crossfade between video clips. Vegas has a multitude of options to vary the shape of the fade, and also make it much easier to edit it as well imo.
Please let us know if you find out anything about updates to Premiere in this area.
I have been dreading moving to Premiere because it does handle the timeline quite differently to Vegas, but I have been impressed with its quick link to Adobe Audition and what a powerful tool that is for audio. Worth making the switch for imo.cheers
Mark
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Keep in mind that Vegas started as an audio program…and the drag an overlap/crossfade feature is very common in audio programs like Audition and ProTools.
I don’t know that you’ll find it anywhere else…at least in the NLEs I’ve used over the years.
I haven’t played around with FCPX for a couple updates, but I don’t recall a behavior that would generate a crossfade through dragging clips onto each other in this way.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Video Producer at I-CAR
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