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  • Adobe Premiere Pro too slow

    Posted by Jimena Mora on July 18, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    Hello Im new to Adobe, and Im trying to edit an HD video on mov format, but when press play to view the clips on the timeline it takes forever to start.

    The material was recorded on AVCHD at 50i 1920 x 1080, and transfered to mov files on a mac. I have the material on an external 2T hard drive that has more than 1T of space, and my MacIntosh HD has 82 GB available.

    I also checked the playback resolution and is in 1/4

    Any ideas on what could be the problem? Sequence settings?

    Thank you

    Jimena Mora replied 11 years, 10 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    July 18, 2014 at 5:28 pm

    AVCHD doesn’t start out in MOV format, so how did you convert the files? What is their codec now?

    What computer do you have? What are the processor speeds? What graphics card do you have? How much RAM?

    How is the drive the footage is on connected to the computer? USB2? USB3? Firewire? What is the speed of the drive? 5400RPM or 7200RPM?

    AVCHD is a highly compressed format that takes a lot of resources (RAM, processor, graphics card) power to deal with natively. Even if you just re-wrapped it as MOV with something like CLIPWRAP2…it’s still a bear to deal with. Editing native formats requires a beefy machine with lots of RAM (16GB minimum) and a good graphics card that can enable the Mercury Engine (CUDA).

    Shane
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  • Jimena Mora

    July 18, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Hello Shane
    Thank you so much for your reply.

    I didn’t convert the files, the person who recorded the footage, converted the .MTS files to .mov with iphoto software. When I open the mov files on QT and put apple i I get the information of the clip but not the codec. I think it is H.264.

    I have a very very basic 2.4GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo but it works just fine with Final Cut Pro 7 for basic editing, even in HD.

    If Im not using Fina Cut with tapeless workflow using the original MTS files is because the person who recorded the material, seems to accidentally erase a lot of clips from the memory card!!

    My computer is a Mac Book Pro and has USB2 ports, the project is on a 2TB Seagate Expansion USB3.

    I guess my options are: 1. Run the mov files throw compressor and edit in Final Cut
    2. Drop the clips on the timeline in Adobe and render everything?

    Any other idea, unfortunately I dont have at the moment to get a new computer or graphics card.

    Thank you!

  • Shane Ross

    July 18, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    [Jimena Mora] “I get the information of the clip but not the codec. I think it is H.264.”

    H.264 is the codec. And AVCHD is an H.264 variant. H.264 is as difficult to edit natively as AVCHD…they are essentially siblings.

    [Jimena Mora] “I have a very very basic 2.4GHZ Intel Core 2 Duo but it works just fine with Final Cut Pro 7 for basic editing, even in HD. “

    Because FCP 7 requires you to convert footage to a more manageable codec for editing, like ProRes. I doesn’t edit H.264 native…struggles with all sorts of issues. Now, if you converted this footage to ProRes, I’m sure PPro would have no issues editing this.

    [Jimena Mora] “converted the .MTS files to .mov with iphoto software. “

    Ugh…really? That’s not the app to do that with. That’s a consumer photo application. Should either give you the raw AVCHD files, and you can convert with Prelude…or ClipWrap. iPhoto…oy.

    [Jimena Mora] “My computer is a Mac Book Pro and has USB2 ports, the project is on a 2TB Seagate Expansion USB3.”

    That’s a big thing. Even though the drive is USB3, your connection is USB2, and that stinks for video editing. You should at least be using Firewire 800.

    [Jimena Mora] “I guess my options are: 1. Run the mov files throw compressor and edit in Final Cut
    2. Drop the clips on the timeline in Adobe and render everything?”

    3. Convert the files to ProRes in Prelude or Compressor and use Premiere (learn the new app, as FCP 7 is discontinued and will soon go away)

    And you don’t render when you use Adobe…not until you are done editing. No rendering needed.

    Shane
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  • Jimena Mora

    July 18, 2014 at 6:54 pm

    Thanks again Shane!

    I asked for the raw AVCHD files BUT when we checked the SD card on the camera, a lot of material is missing! Have they been erased? Lost?

    I will convert the .mov files in compressor. Hope this helps if the raw footage has been lost forever!!

  • Shane Ross

    July 18, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Are you checking the card, or the card backup? For backing up the card, I rely on ShotPut Pro, as it verifies the copy…makes sure it grabs everything. There’s also BulletProof from Red Giant that does that, and converts.

    You can’t use Compressor to convert AVCHD…it doesn’t read the MTS format…gotta use ClipWrap2 or Prelude (Prelude comes with Premiere Pro CC)

    Are you sure you shot this material? I cannot tell you how many times I come across footage of a shooter where they pressed the record button and I get footage of them resetting, or carrying the camera from place to place…setting it on the table while they have lunch. Because the first press when they thought they were recording didn’t hit…and then they pressed it again to stop recording and that ACTUALLY started the recording. Just a thought.
    Are you sure the footage was shot, is all I’m saying. Footage can’t just vanish, unless the card is corrupt somehow.

    Shane
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  • Jimena Mora

    July 18, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Hello Shane:
    I checked the card not the backup. The only backup there is, is the one transfered with iphoto on .mov

    The material was recorded because I can view the mov files on QT. But when I place the card in the camera and check it, tons of clips are gone.

    Just for the record, I didnt shoot this material or transfered it, Im just trying to edit it.

    Thank you so much for all your advise

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