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new to understanding a proxy workflow
Hello all,
I’ve been doing all my editing in PP and have recently upgraded to CC. I’ve only edited the native files, but am looking into revamping my workflow to work with Proxy files. I think this would not only help me in the speed of my edit (multiple HD sources can bog down when working in Multicam), but also help me pass projects back and forth between co-workers.
Does anyone here do that? Can you walk me through the basics? I want to be able to work in PP, AE and Speedgrade while being able to pass projects over to a coworker a few offices down. Any ideas/input? Thanks!
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I have been editing in PPRO for over ten years and would also like to know how this works exactly. I have tried it several different ways and it never really seemed to workout right. (Couldn’t get seq settings to jive back and forth properly) I use the proxy workflow in FCPX everyday and it is literally turn-key……but I would LOVE to know how it works with Adobe because we use that quite often as well because of the dynamic link to Audition, Ae, etc.
I’ve googled this awe different times over the years and I have only found people talking about it, or referring to the fact that it is possible….haven’t really found a step by step on how to make it happen. It’s almost like nobody wants to share the info LOL. So I just gave up and edited natively. Currently I am using Prelude to do my transcoding to Avid DNXHD on the PC and Apple Prores 422 on Macs. Since DSLR is roughly 50mbps the transcode to those edit formats doesn’t seem to affect my media adversely so that works…..but if I could go to a small proxy and relink to original for final export (like FCPX) I would most likely use Adobe for everything.
Eric
Someone who knows……PLEASE ANSWER.
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Well the proxy workflow is pretty easy for the editing part of the process, but you will want to switch back to the full res files before you do any After Effects or Speedgrade work. Ideally you lock your edit then conform that edit to the full res files, then work from there in After Effects and Speedgrade.
Proxy files are often different resolutions, and almost always different colour depth and colour space than the orginal footage. This is fine for editing but an cause major headaches in grading and VFX if you try to switch back to the original later on in the process.
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Jon,
To further our discussion…..here is what I do currently. I do long-form multicam work from as many as 7 cam sources and 2-3 separate audio sources. It is very labor intensive on the machine. What I have done to somewhat handle this is to ingest and transcode all of my media in Prelude to an edit friendly codec such as DNXHD or Prores. Cam record formats like mp4, or worse AVCHD are just to compressed and not friendly for editing. Especially in a multicam timeline. The reason this works well is because the format that I am transcoding to is the same frame size as my native footage. So unlinking my transcoded media in the project panel (by moving it into a different folder at the finder or explorer level to purposely cause PPRO to “lose” link to the footage) and then reconnecting to the original media works without any change to seq settings.
Soon as I have tried proxy (with lower res and smaller frame size) it has given me trouble. I admittedly haven’t tried it however since CS6.
I did use the “scale to frame size” option to try to fudge it……but it didn’t seem to work right. It’s very possible I did something wrong however I am okay currently just transcoding to Prores or DNXHD in full HD frame size because the machines I work on are strong enough just hobble through that. So it works.
If I could get PPRO to run as good as FCPX in proxy mode I would do backflips. 🙂
If you need, I can make a video of what I do in prelude and post it for ya.
Eric
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[Eric Monroe] “but I would LOVE to know how it works with Adobe”
-Make your proxies and remember to keep the filenames/timecodes/whatever metadata they have. Otherwise you’ll be in trouble with the relinking.
-Finish your edit.
-Offline all used media.
-Relink to the original media.
-Do whatever additional post work you need to do (grading, effects, etc.)
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