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  • Premeire Pro Workflow with markers

    Posted by Gene Weglarz on March 25, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    I am in the middle of editing a multi camera project. I have gone through the timeline and added markers where the subject starts and ends a subject. Then I go to the marker panel and replace the “Begin Subject” ending timecode with the starting marker timecode of the “End Subject” start time. This works, but is time consuming.

    I’ll next have to go and edit out the interview questions. I’m not really finding markers useful. They disappear in the nested MC sequence. Is all of the hassle of markers just to go back in and use them to set in and out points to add to a new sequence?

    Or, should I learn Prelude?

    Frustated,

    Geoffrey

    Bob Pierce replied 12 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Al Levine

    March 25, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Have you tried subclips as a way of organizing? Why are you using a timeline to do your organizing?

  • Alex Udell

    March 26, 2014 at 1:18 pm

    Hmmm…

    not sure about markers specifically….

    but why not go ahead and rough cut the sequence…

    dupe the sequence…(so you can go back to the master if you need to)

    then…in the dupe…lift edit out the sections you don’t need….to consolidate the cut down…

    then add B-roll and or transitions to cover the cuts?

    Alex Udell
    Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX

  • Gene Weglarz

    March 26, 2014 at 1:48 pm

    Thanks, I’ll try that. Thanks for the help.

  • Gene Weglarz

    March 26, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    I’ve been using PP for a number of years nut have not stumbled on a way to not do it in time line, except for using in and out points in the clip and dropping into sequence.

    The problem with subclips is that you cannot extend the head or the tail for editing the sequence.

  • Bob Pierce

    March 27, 2014 at 3:56 pm

    I’m very interested to know how others log footage in Premiere. After trying lots of approaches, including markers, sub clips, and simply working from the timeline. For b roll, I usually just work from the timeline. Interviews I log in a bin, duplicating each clip as I go along and type notes in one of the comment fields. You can also safely rename the clip (it retains it’s original filename).
    Bob

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    Robert Pierce
    Director of Photography • Editor
    https://robertpiercemedia.wordpress.com

  • Gene Weglarz

    March 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    I feel like I have a very disorganized workflow; especially interviews. I have three interviews, each a two camera setup.

    Questions are similar for all interviews, so I go through and add markers with labels and comment(need comment to see in marker panel)like “Subject x begins.” The add a marker at the end of subject with similar labels “Subject x ends.”

    Then I have to go to the marker panel and paste the beginning timecode of the end marker to the end time of the start marker.

    Then, I’ll edit and set in/out points from the source monitor and drop these into a new sequence.

    Tedious. I don’t use subclips because you can’t slide or lengthen or shorten inserts.

    Now a new wrinkle. I’m using CC and sometimes when I add markers, they don’t show up in timeline. They’re there, because I can go to next marker or last marker, but there is no visual representation of the marker in the timeline.

    ARRRG.

    Maybe I should look into Prelude or metalogging before I start editing?

  • Bob Pierce

    March 28, 2014 at 2:26 pm

    Two things: Yes, you can drag and modify your sub clips. Just hold the option key to lengthen them.

    The disappearing markers may be because you need to drag the video track to enlarge it vertically a little. For some reason Adobe hides markers (and opacity keyframes) when the track is at its minimum size.

    After trying all kinds of approaches I gave up on markers. With the funky way you have to create in and out points it’s simply too time consuming to create them, and then you have to use the awkward marker window to view the results. It also makes for a messy and confusing timeline.

    Bob

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    Robert Pierce
    Director of Photography • Editor
    https://robertpiercemedia.wordpress.com

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