-
Recapture clips without losing them in sequence?
For workflow reasons/audio issues, we want to delete media connected to clips already edited in a sequence, and recapture (with a different audio path).
Can we simply delete the media attached to the clips in the bin, do a batch capture by selecting the clip icons we deleted the media from, and have it dynamically update in the sequence (like deleting/recap of media with Avid master clips)?
-
6 Replies
-
When you say “different audio paths”, do you mean you’re using the same video clips but with different audio?
I wonder if you can open the original clips in QT Pro and replace the audio tracks (you can even leave the original audio there but unticked)?
Or do you really need to do a full recapture? If so, I’m worried that the recaptured clips might not be an identical length to the first ones, so when you relink, you may run into trouble.Whatever you do, I’d recommend moving rather than deleting the original clips until you’re sure the new ones have slotted in ok.
I hope that helps
– PaddyPaddy, CreativeMedia.org.uk
-
Hi Jon,
Not familiar with AVID workflow, but have replaced clips in Premiere manually. First thing I would do is a “Save As” and work on a COPY of the Project for safety, and as Paddy said, don’t delete originals right away.
I never use batch capture myself, just entire tapes via Firewire(HDV)with Scene Detect, so can’t comment on that end of it really, but as Paddy said the timing of the re-capture could be off a bit depending on the gear used, which may or may not be problematic for you.
What I’ve done in the past is to rename the original clip folder, then put the NEW clips in original path. Open Project and if clip names and lengths are the same as before, Premiere ought to just think they are the originals. However, since Premiere conforms audio when you first import a clip, it may continue using the original audio with this method, which would defeat the purpose. Cleaning the Media Cache should solve that though and it should re-conform with new audio then when you re-open the project again.
Another option is right-click a clip in Project Bin and choose UNLINK. Then again and choose RELINK MEDIA and choose the replacement clip. This will use the new clip in the timeline, replacing original including audio.
I’ve done this on a wedding for instance, one long source clip used in timeline that is already cut up (mixed with second camera), color corrected etc. and then I decide there is too much grain in the video. I’ll take original source clip into AE, run a Denoiser and export new clip, then replace in Premiere and it is seamless. New clip is exact length of original, so edits remain exactly as before, except using the new clean footage.
If you have many dozens or hundreds of clips, then maybe you don’t want to unlink/relink one at a time, but if you try to automate you also have the issue of needing to match original file names and time code to avoid problems.
Maybe someone else has a better suggestion – I don’t know everything in Premiere, but the above ideas have worked for my needs.
Hope this info is useful
Thanks
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers -
When we originally captured, the Blackmagic card was set up so we were capturing audio, along with the video, via SDI. We had some intermittent dropouts in audio with this path.
We have reconfigured the Blackmagic card to take video via SDI, but audio via analog from our mixer, which was our original desire anyway.
In the Avid universe, your master clip (metadata/tape ID/TC) in the bin and the media itself are two different entities. You can select an Avid master clip and take it offline. This deletes media, but keeps the master clip in the bin. If you want to re-capture, you simply select the master clips that are offline and re-capturee them.
So I am working on figuring out if there’s a Premiere similarity to the relationship between the “(master)clip” in the bin and the media it represents. Basically, will Premiere permit to to delete the media (but not the bin icon) and recapture using metadata stored with the clip in the bin?
That way I can have the exact same clips, but with audio taken through the analog path as opposed to the SDI path.
-
Hi Jon,
I Googled “recapture clips in Premiere” and found this – https://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WS1c9bc5c2e465a58a91cf0b1038518aef7-7f91a.html
From what I’m reading, if you make the clips offline in the bin, you should then be able to recapture those clips. Hope it works for you
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers -
I’d also test carefully by moving media “offline” by placing the actual files in a prallel folder or by renaming the original media folder as “offline.”
I have not done what you are inquiring about since like CS3….
I had some bad experiences back then coming from HDV (firewire not RS-422) with frame drift +/- 3 frames per clip.
DV seemed to work ok which led me to believe that it had more to do with the GOP structure of HDV than anything else.
I also was put in charge of conforming an offline around that time in a system equipped with a capture card and using 422, but I think the initial capture had a timecode setup versus the actual frame rate on the tape that cased some problems….
so….just do you diligence and check yourself on a few tests before you commit.
Alex Udell
Editing, Motion Graphics, and Visual FX -
We did test the process out, making the clips offline and deleting the original media, then doing a batch capture of those clips. Worked like a charm.
Thanks for your help and feedback, everyone. I figured this is a media management task Premiere could handle; just wanted to be sure the process before having to re-do a lot of work.
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up