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Switching from FCP to Adobe: Having trouble with Log and Capture workflow
One thing I keep having trouble with is developing a Log and Capture workflow in Adobe CC. We shoot primarily AVCHD at my office. I know PP can handle that footage without transcoding, but I don’t like the idea of storing those file structures on my computer. For one, I have to delete footage on the camera before transferring, or go in and manually delete files after I copy the file structure. I’d rather cull and relabel my footage during log and capture like I used to in FCP. Also, I don’t like the idea of not having my files be shareable. I’m not going to send someone the whole file structure if they want to see a raw take. Yes, I can export that take but it’s not always plausible or convenient.
So that leads me to Adobe Prelude, which seems to be a subpar but capable log and capture tool. However, it only plays back video and not audio for AVCHD footage. From what I’ve read Adobe hasn’t or can’t fix this. So what do I do? I can’t log and cap without hearing the audio. For now I’ve been viewing files in VLC and then capturing only the ones I want, but that’s a hell of a work around.
Am I missing something? Is there a better way? Do I just need to change my ways? Any help and advice is appreciated. Best, Aaron
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There is an odd little thing you need to setup in the Audio MIDI Setup under the Utilities.
Select Prelude on the left listing and setup the tick boxes to hear audio devices through it.
Go back to watching clips in the Ingest step. It should work.
Hmmm. I’m looking into it a little deeper. Seems to be working with test ingested materials only…. that have already built the audio conform files.
Cheers JB
Jon Barrie
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Yeah I shoot mainly with a couple of Canon XF100’s, but I have a client who likes to shoot some things himself with his XA10’s and they shoot AVCHD. So here’s what I do. In Prelude I open the Ingest panel and navigate to the AVCHD location and select “Check All” and hit “Ingest”. Once the audio conforms are finished in the Logging panel I delete all the clips and go back to the Ingest panel and select/mark ins and outs as needed…with audio. I think that’s kind of what you’re getting there Jon.
Aaron you should know that if you select some clips from an AVCHD card and simply “Transfer To A New Destination” without any transcoding Prelude will rebuild the AVCHD structure with just those selected clips. So you needn’t send all the clips when you only want to send a few. It’s actually pretty tidy.
Or in your other case, just ingest everything directly from the camera, choose your selects and transfer them to your chosen location. This will give you your selects in a AVCHD structure and leave all the clips on your camera untouched.
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Yeah. I think the linking element here is that the audio in AVCHD is compressed it needs to build the audio conform for playback.
I’d second the workflow Paul wrote up.
Cheers JB
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Thanks guys. I did discover yesterday what you shared about saving only certain takes in the AVCHD file structure which makes me feel better about editing that way. I’ll try to conform audio and then select takes and see where that gets me. Just seems like an extra step that shouldn’t be necessary in a log and cap program.
Just for curiosity sake, how does FCP handle AVCHD considering you don’t need to conform audio?
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