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  • Why do videos on the same video track eat eachother when you overlap them?

    Posted by David Wolf on October 19, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    I’m used to Vegas Video… it feels like working in a non-destructive enviornment. Ever since changing to a mac, this seems like the most similar program to Vegas. But when I try to do things that were made so simple in Vegas, this program seems to either add extra steps to get to that result, or destroy what I have created. Is there a setting somewhere that could get rid of the overlapping of video clips to be eaten off?

    Chris Harlan replied 12 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    October 19, 2013 at 11:44 pm

    The answer is no. Video lanes should be treated as individual layers – Overlapping video is a single layer will for one to be dominant. The only semi-exception are video transitions which will pull from both clips as they fade into each other.

    If you need to overlap video, simply put it in the second, or further, track.

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  • David Wolf

    October 20, 2013 at 2:16 am

    Thanks.. I think I’ll just work in Vegas Video then import the timeline in another format. I like the option of working in the same video track and things not disappearing.

  • Chris Harlan

    October 20, 2013 at 5:22 am

    [David Wolf] “Thanks.. I think I’ll just work in Vegas Video then import the timeline in another format. I like the option of working in the same video track and things not disappearing.

    Its been many years since I worked with Vegas, and I’m curious what you are talking about. How can you have more than one video in a single track? And what do you mean by disappear? I’m having a very difficult time imagining what you are talking about.

  • Declan Smith

    October 20, 2013 at 7:11 am

    Put simply, it’s bad user interface design. Final Cut Pro is exactly the same (I refer to version 7).

    What you achieve in vegas when dragging video over the top is a cross dissolve which in video editing terms is generally seen as a bad thing, however, from an audio perspective, cross dissolves make perfect sense.

    From a user point if view, the act of dragging a clip over another should result in one of two actions: either splice the clip underneath (as is what happens in PP) or blend (dissolve) which is what happens in Vegas. It ought to configurable or controllable via a modifier key or setting. For me the perfect world would be to control both independently so that audio would dissolve and video would cut.

    Interestingly enough, if you work in Adobe Audition (Adobes audio editor), then dragging an audio clip over another audio clip results in a dissolve, so what you have here is an inconsistent approach to UI design as you don’t get this behaviour in Premier Pro.

    I use both Adobe Premiere and Final Cut Pro (7) having switched to the Mac platform 4 years ago, and still wish that these programs were as intuitive as Sony Vegas. It’s not surprising to know that Sony Vegas started life as an audio editor, thus dissolves are natural and they just applied the same process to video layers.

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  • Morten

    October 20, 2013 at 8:41 am

    It is a matter of the programs adapting to the most used format. For audio a dissolve is desirable since it would be the way to create a natural sounddcape. For video dissolves are seldom used, since it disturbs the story, and the eye is used to cuts from one clip to the other…

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  • Alex Udell

    October 20, 2013 at 11:58 am

    previous reply on this topic here:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/3/945119

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  • Chris Harlan

    October 20, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    I get from reading others that this is about creating dissolves like many DAWs do. The short answer is that I wouldn’t want that to be the default action, and hope it never becomes that way.

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