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  • add edit to selection?

    Posted by Bret Williams on October 16, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    I thought Premiere had cleaned up a lot of the selection type mess. I’ve got two clips highlighted. I’d like to simply split them (add edit). I press cmd+k and it’s still following the track selections. Is there a way I’m missing?

    Also, when I split a title and edit the second one, the first still changes. I thought this was recently changed as well. I thought a duplicate of a title (that’s a what you have when you split a title) is it’s own entity but it appears only copy paste does this. Do we have to suggest this too?

    Bret Williams replied 12 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Ann Bens

    October 16, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Cutting multiple clips in one go: ctrl+shift+K

    Cutting a title will not give you new title.
    Alt dragging a title in the timeline will make a new title. This one you can edit without altering the other one.

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  • Bret Williams

    October 16, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    [Ann Bens] “Cutting multiple clips in one go: ctrl+shift+K”

    I suppose you’re on PC? Seems that it’s cmd+shift+k on mac, but it still doesn’t work. Cuts through all clips that have tracks selected. I just want to cut through highlighted clips. Don’t want to mess with tracks. This seems like a silly video editing 101 kind of concept. If something is highlighted/selected, I’d prefer that it trump any track selections.

    [Ann Bens] “Cutting a title will not give you new title.
    Alt dragging a title in the timeline will make a new title. This one you can edit without altering the other one.”

    Ah, yes. This is kind of like FCP 7s old copy and paste vs. option+drag nested sequences. One linked, the other created a new. Not a great idea there either. Led to a lot of screwups. But every app is different. Just gotta know the rules. Thanks!

  • Kevin Monahan

    October 16, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    [Bret Williams] ” I just want to cut through highlighted clips. Don’t want to mess with tracks. This seems like a silly video editing 101 kind of concept. If something is highlighted/selected, I’d prefer that it trump any track selections.”

    Hi Bret,
    That feature is coming to the next release of Premiere Pro CC: https://blogs.adobe.com/premierepro/2013/09/adobe-premiere-pro-cc-october-2013-release.html

    Al Mooney, “The Add Edit command overrides track targeting, favoring instead the selected clips under the playhead.”

    Hope that helps,
    Kevin

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  • Ann Bens

    October 16, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    Add cut for selected clips will be in the new release for CC.

    Kevin just beat me.

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  • Bret Williams

    October 16, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    Wow. That’s fast! Let me think of a few other things while you’re listening… 🙂

    Oh, that whole split a title and it’s still the same title. You really should look into that. Especially after adding the add edit. Cutting up a long title on the fly to the beat of music, then changing each title. A bit quicker than option dragging a zillion times. Or a command like X has for compound clips to “make title independent.”

  • Walter Soyka

    October 17, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Oh, that whole split a title and it’s still the same title. You really should look into that. Especially after adding the add edit. Cutting up a long title on the fly to the beat of music, then changing each title. A bit quicker than option dragging a zillion times. Or a command like X has for compound clips to “make title independent.””

    Create your single title. Add edits to the beat. Select every title but the first, then alt-drag it to the track above — this will create multiple independent titles. Drag them back down a track to overwrite the old ones.

    I’m not sure that simply splitting a title should automatically create a new independent one — then titles wouldn’t behave like clips.

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  • Bret Williams

    October 17, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    Why on earth would you want a title to behave like a clip? I’ve never used an NLE that kept a relationship to a title like that. You slice it, edit it, and the first half stays the way it was. And is there some way we can turn off seeing titles in our bin/browser? I have no need for titles to exist in my browser unless I put them there. Avid did the same thing but I always turned off display of titles. I might want to keep one, as a template, but I don’t need all 50 in a sequence to exist in a bin!

  • Walter Soyka

    October 17, 2013 at 8:10 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Why on earth would you want a title to behave like a clip? I’ve never used an NLE that kept a relationship to a title like that.”

    This is one of the areas where Pr is different than FCP: anything that appears in a sequence is treated as an asset, and any assets in the project must exist in the project panel in order to exist in a sequence.

    Cutting a clip on the timeline does not create a new instance of that clip in the project panel, so the behavior is consistent and allows explicit reuse, not only within a single sequence but across all sequences in the project, even if it seems a bit weird coming from other NLEs with a different data model.

    [Bret Williams] “You slice it, edit it, and the first half stays the way it was. And is there some way we can turn off seeing titles in our bin/browser? I have no need for titles to exist in my browser unless I put them there. Avid did the same thing but I always turned off display of titles. I might want to keep one, as a template, but I don’t need all 50 in a sequence to exist in a bin!”

    Titles, like everything else in Premiere, are assets. That’s why they appear in the project panel. I don’t know of a way to hide them, but I tend to group them together in their own bin anyway.

    I get why you prefer FCP-style titles, but there are benefits to Pr-style titles, too.

    You don’t need to edit your titles from the timeline. You can edit them source-side from the project panel.

    You can reuse titles, so if you have the same lower third in three differently-timed cuts in the same project and you need to change it, you only have to change it once.

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  • Bret Williams

    October 18, 2013 at 12:54 pm

    Coming from An After Effects perspective, I definitely understand an am familiar with the approach. But even AE doesn’t put titles in the project panel. If you want them reuseable, you’d precompose them.

    I have put the titles in a bin as well. But it just seems like more media managing than necessary. An option to hide like Avid would be great.

    Is there any way to have titles automatically be named by what’s in the title? All my titles are named the same thing because I’ve option drag duplicated them in the timeline.

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