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  • Warp Stabilizers makes Steadycam footage worse

    Posted by Benjamin Gs on October 12, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    I recently recorded a walk through of a house using a camera stabilizer (flycam nano) in combination with my Canon T5i.
    I know that it takes practice to master a steadycam. Since I am still a beginner, my moves were better than without stabilizer but still not that smooth. I assumed I could just fix the shakiness that is still there with the Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 Warp stabilizer.
    However, after applying the Warp stabilizer with the standard settings, the footage actually got worse with more movement. Even though, the stabilizers cropped the picture. I tried everything from 10-100% smoothness. I eventually turned the stabilizer off and it looks way better now.

    I have used the stabilizer in After Effects CS 5.5 with other vacation shots before (not Flycam) and got good results.

    Now I am really puzzled that the warp stabilizer makes my flycam footage look worse. Is there something that I am missing?

    Mark Brown replied 11 years, 5 months ago 7 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Ann Bens

    October 12, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    The Warp Stabilizer can do wonders it cannot perform miracles.
    In other words its not suited for every shot.
    If your footage is cropped it means the motion is too much for normal stabilization.
    Because its a walk through that is part of the problem.
    Don’t make shots with the assumption you can fix it in post.

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  • Chris Gunningham

    October 13, 2013 at 7:31 am

    I sometimes get better results with stabilise only and position scale rotation (not subspace warp), but Ann is right it doesn’t work for every scenario.

    Chris Gunningham
    Online/VFX Editor

  • Benjamin Gs

    October 13, 2013 at 10:17 pm

    I assumed that the Warp Stabilizer cant do wonders. But I did use it on shaky footage (e.g. skiing) in the past and got great results. So it surprised me that the Warp stabilizer makes steadycam stabilized video worse and not better.
    I guess I don’t understand why the stabilizer is good with regular shaky footage but cant handle somewhat smooth (steadycam footage).

    Thanks for the answers.

  • Paul Neumann

    October 14, 2013 at 2:26 am

    I used the Warp Stablilizer last week on a swooping jib shot and it completely smoothed out a bump with out messing with the integrity of the movement of the camera even a little bit. I was very pleasantly surprised.

  • Jon Doughtie

    October 14, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    Benjamin, processor effects like Warp Stabilizer usually are pretty good at addressing footage with issues in the X and Y axis.

    Your walkthrough shots are changing every moment in the Z axis as well. This makes it almost impossible for effects like these to compensate, because the parameters of the shot they use to adjust also keep changing.

  • Benjamin Gs

    October 14, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    That makes sense.

    Thanks Jon.

  • Dennis Radeke

    October 15, 2013 at 12:38 pm

    [Jon Doughtie] “Benjamin, processor effects like Warp Stabilizer usually are pretty good at addressing footage with issues in the X and Y axis.

    Your walkthrough shots are changing every moment in the Z axis as well. This makes it almost impossible for effects like these to compensate, because the parameters of the shot they use to adjust also keep changing.”

    Give this man a gold sticker! 😉 Heck, everyone else can have one too.
    if you have a long continuous shot that is constantly changing, there becomes no point of reference. One possible solution or workaround is to cut up the shot where possible and warp stabilize them separately. now, you’ll have to do a dissolve or something to stitch it together, but at least it will provide a stabilized view of your media.

    Hope this helps,
    dennis – adobe guy

  • Benjamin Gs

    October 15, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    That indeed makes sense. However, thinking about it I was able to stabilize footage I took with a GoPro during a Ski trip. The footage was taken while I was going down the hill and I was able to improve the stability using the Warp Stabilizer (in After Effects).
    Is it possible that the AE CS5.5 and Premiere Pro CS6 Warp Stabilizers are different?

  • Mark Brown

    March 1, 2015 at 9:25 pm

    Chris was spot on with using position, scale rotation (rather than subspace warp). This method works great with steadicam shots.

    -mark
    https://www.twintownmedia.com
    https://www.markrbrownphoto.com

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