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New Thunderbolt Add-on option for Hp Z820
Just a heads up that HP finally announced their Z820 Thunderbolt add-on board. I’ve been testing it for a while and it works as expected. I tested the new Zbook Workstation Laptop with Thunderbolt along with the new Z820 w/ Thunderbolt on a 4K workflow video .
With Thunderbolt finally coming to a Dual E5 Processor Workstation , I thought Premiere & AE users should be the first to know… The most important thing for me: One AC power plug is required for all this expansion …..
Here’s a link to the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrxEx8ICqME
Also some picts of the board in this CC update blog article.
https://blogs.adobe.com/davtechtable/…-releases.html
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Thunderbolt PCI-E (16x lane) expansion card? I’ll buy two immediately.
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[Angelo Lorenzo] “Thunderbolt PCI-E (16x lane) expansion card? I’ll buy two immediately.”
The card fits in a 16x slot but you can only get 8x performance over Thunderbolt 2.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_(interface)
20 Gbit/s channel or 2.5GB/s
PCi-E Gen 2 512MB/s per 1X lane
Total is 5X bandwidthEric-ADK
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Eric, not to be critical, but aren’t you recieving and buffering the TB input and sending it out at the slower speed? Just trying to understand.believe me i’ll buy one if it gets me a port on a slightly older i7 w/o usb 3.0.
Al
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Looked like a 4-lane card to me.
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8 lane card. TB 2. There is a small cable that connects to the Z820 or Z620 motherboard . This card will only work in these 2 machines.
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[Dave Helmly] “8 lane card.”
Still looks like a 4-lane card. An 8-lane card like ATTO R680 has 11 plus 38 pins on one side. The one you’re showing – almost certainly around 20 on the large connector, making it a 4-lane card.
Thunderbolt in itself is a 4-lane PCIe protocol, although that doesn’t stop the OEMs from putting it on an 8-lane PCB.
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It’s Thunderbolt 2 . The large connector you see is a Displayport “in” connector for looping graphics into the TB chain if you need to. No requirement to connect it. The card will also change slightly in appearance from this one once it ships. The slight delay is certified TB 2 drivers just like everything else TB 2.
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Hi Dave, i’m having trouble finding much info on this, hoping you might be able to help. I’m stuck trying to get this card to work. I get the thunderbolt icon in the bottom right corner, id’ing my drive, but the drive doesn’t appear on “my computer” In my device manager i’m getting an error stating that i don’t have enough resources available to use the card. (New dual cpu z820, 24 gigs ram, k4000 video card. My question is did you have to muck with the bios settings to get your test card to work? HP support doesn’t know much about the card right now, so they aren’t much help.
Anything you can remember about setting it up may help.
Thanks
Glenn
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Hello Dave. I know that I’m late into this thread, but I need you to clarify somethings for me. I’ve watched your video over a dozen times by the way. My primary interest was the HP Thunderbolt-2 PCIe 1-Port I/O Card. I’ve read most of thread and I understand that it’s an 8 lane card which makes total sense. In your video, it looks like a 4 lane. There’s another card like it already in the market from ASUS called the ThunderboltEX. That card my friend is a 4 lane card which requires an Asus’s mother boards with a dedicated, proprietary GPIO interface (TB Header) for the PCIe card to function properly. These interfaces are, at this time, only on the z87 chipset motherboards. The point is…. I’ve looked into the motherboards of the HP Z820 & Z620. There isn’t a dedicated interface on any of those boards the would be compatible with any connection outside of Firewire, USB 3.0/2.0, or audio connectors. In addition, the z820 and z620 boards are with X79 chipset family. There isn’t an X79 board on the market that’s thunderbolt ready. I am aware that HP makes there own proprietary boards for their workstations, yet still, the boards in the 820 & 620 do not have that foreign interface. The card you displayed in your video was not connected in the machine yet you had a thunderbolt cable sticking out from the back. It would have been nice to show us viewers how you were able to get it connected to the machine. You right though, your card does differ from the one HP is shipping. However, the PCIe card itself has a dedicated GPIO header built into it which leads me to believe that it plug in somewhere. Or maybe the card will work off a 16x lane without the need of connecting the card directly to the motherboard. Usually mother board ports are used for front I/O panels and cards with these types of interfaces allow for front I/O panels to connect to if there isn’t any room on the board itself. HP also provides a lack of support for the device on their website. There aren’t any addition images on the web other than the one I’ve embedded here. Your video is the only actual proof that Intel wants thunderbolt in Professional PCs particularly those that support PCIe Gen 3 and beyond. I look forward to hearing back from you. Or even better, a follow up video to show how is the device getting the proper throughput.
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