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Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 – Multicam
I can’t seem to successfully output footage after “replace media”.
Doing a multicam edit of an 8 camera band shoot so I converted all my 5D DSLR footage to proxy 1920 x 1080 very low res .wmv files so I can stream them.
After doing all my cuts and “replace footage” back to 5d native. I create 2 new dslr sequences, one for all the synced clips and one for the multicam clip, copy and paste the tracks in the new sequences and try to output. However the project is trying to do the file output using the old proxy sequence settings.
Am I missing something?
What is the correct process for multicam editing using proxy files? -
16 Replies
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Sorry that should have read “replace footage”.
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If I read your question right, you should take your replaced footage that is in the sequence setting and copy it to a new sequence with teh correct frame size (1920×1080)
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That method, which I have been doing for years, does not work with a multicam setup.
Even if you create a new hd sequence, when you copy the “multicam” sequence, which is similar to a nested sequence, into the new hd sequence, it still reference the old sequence settings, even thought the clips have been replace with the hd clips.
One solution, I believe, is to be able to change the existing sequence settings to hd settings. Apparently, Premeire seems to be the only NLE that does not allow you change existing sequence settings.
So what is the proper work flow for multicam editing that involves proxy and replace footage method?
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1) relink source media to full res media (this you have done)
2) you need to make an equivalent source multi-cam nest sequence with the proper resoultion full settings. I think you should just be able to copy an paste the media from your proxy source seq to the destination full res seq. That should take care of the source…3) now you need to make a full res multicam edit timeline.
4) now copy and paste your proxy edit sequence clips to the destination timeline… they will still refer to the old nest (contains full res media, but seq setting wrong)
here’s a possibility….I don’t know if this will work…
but you can try OPTION drag REPLACING clips in the full res multicam edit timeline with the new full res multicam source timeline in the project panel (bin)…
see if that works….
I know it’s convoluted….but it’s the best I can come up with in my head right now…
let’s see if we can get past this….then I can suggest some things to try so this doesn’t happen again….
Alex Udell
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Thank you. I figured it out just prior to reading your response.
The only thing I’m trying to figure out now is what is the best codec to transcode the files while being able to stream 8 cameras simutanously. The only codec that seems to work is the NTSC half 360 x 180. But the resolution is so bad when editing that you can’t even see if the cameras are in focus.
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hmmmm…..
are you starting from heavy codec (avc)
or high data rate?
why are you transcoding?
i’ll assume your on a mac?
what’s your gpu like?
Alex Udell
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Premiere Pro CS6
I am PC i7 2600 16gb ram 4gb nvidia card. I am running a 7200 wd drive for my all my source media and have seperated my disk cache media cache on another drive. All internals. Playback resolution is at 1/4. I would set it to even less if I could.
I have been able to stream 9 fairly smothly in Apple Pro Res Proxies codecs (and native 5d files)but need to stream 17 clips. Thats when streams start slowing down after the first 3 seconds of play. I have also tried UT YUV422 codec at 1920 x 1080 and 768 x 432, Same thing on 17 streams.
The only thing hat seems to work is bringing the resolution down to 384 x 216. But at that low res, I can’t tell if the cameras are even in focus.Am I missing something?
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ok….you seem to have a grasp of things you can control to handle perf.
Let me ask this….
with your low res proxies….
is it possible that they look so bad because you are performing the edits on a 1080 destination seq?
so essentially the proxies are getting WAAAAY upscaled….
Is it possible then to edit on a seq that is a little closer to your proxy setup
then remaster at the end?
again…shooting in the dark….
What makes this more difficult….is that there is no RENDER mechanism for multicam.
either it’s real time or nothing…
I’ve built manual multicam edits before….not too bad….
I can step you thru a good way to set that up if you need me to….that way you can just work with the full res and be done with it…..
Alex Udell
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I am actually matching the sequence to the low res proxy 384 x 216 and then replacing footage and copying and pasting into a full res sequence. But when I have to make changes I have to go back to the low res timline and do the whole process over again.
Not sure if I am expecting too much from my hardware or should I be going raid, more drives, bigger videocard etc.
Adobe tech support was worthless. The guy I spoke didn’t even know you can do more than 4 cams on CS6.
I would be interested in your workflow or any suggestions you have.
Thanks Alex.
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I’ve tried Opt-drag workaround of new HD source sequence on-to a new destination HD sequence but clips in a destination multicam sequence are loosing their “Multicam-Enable” setting 🙁
Yerb Khan Solution in another thread to replace in TextEdit frame dimension values worked for me.
P.S. That’s insane that Adobe ignored the issue with sequence settings change 🙁
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