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Happy with 6.0, not so happy with the Mac Version
I’m going to come right out and say it. If you want the HUGE number of people who want to migrate from FCP 7 to Premiere 6.0, you better get feature parity on the Mac. I don’t care about your Flash feud with Apple. Get it together on the Mac, please. Otherwise, there are others who will.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1, Premiere Pro 5.0 and 5.5, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe -
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Agreed, Given how much of a boost Adobe got from the implosion of Final Cut, it’s shocking to me that they haven’t been more interested/aggressive in meeting the needs of those that have essentially shifted the balance of power between FCP and PPro. Finding workable transitions and plug-ins on the Mac side has been, to put it kindly, neglected. Adobe had a massive migration on the Mac side in the last 12 months, but I’ve been noticing a slower, but just as noticeable, migration from Premiere to Avid with their MC6.
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Can you guys give me a run-down on the failings of the MAc version? I’m very close to making a switch from FCP to PP where I work and a, trying to get as much info as possible before I do..
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Happy w/ 6.0?
What have you seen?I agree with you whole heartily, Adobe Premiere(almost)Pro does not perform great on a mac. IME. It’s so disappointing.
Should we have to turn the playback rez down to 1/4 quality in attempt to playback a sequence in realtime??? Come on!
Chris Tompkins
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Yep, I would love some additional feedback, we have 9 seats of Final Cut and I am not sure what direction we are going, I really want Premiere to be the answer because I like the workflow they have going (especially with the new additions to the suite) and we are already on CS 5.5 so the cost is almost nothing.
Are you really only to play timelines in low rez? Anything else missing?
Man I really want Adobe to be the answer (and I love Avid) from scriptwriting, logging, color correction, editing to graphics, they are moving the needle in the right direction, just don’t want any suprises!!!!
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Jim, are a you a mac beta tester or did you see the mac version
at NAB failing in some way?What have you seen/experienced with CS 6 MAC to say this?
I have noticed all the demonstrations appear to be on the pc version.
Adobe would be making a huge mistake if CS 6 MAC doesn’t run smoothly/in parity
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No, I haven’t beta tested it. But the fact that they are only supporting OenCL on the newer MacBook Pros and the high end iMac and not the Radeon 5870’s definitely says something. I’ve read conflicting info about iMac Radeon support from an Adobe rep, hope it does. I was lucky and found a GTX-285 Nvidia card, supposedly new, on eBay, and it makes a huge difference in common effects playback, like color correction. The only other option for the Mac Pro and CUDA support for good playback is the expensive Nvidia Quadro 4000 currently sold. One would think that if PP with OpenCL could be used on the MacBook Radeons, it could be used on the AMD 5870’s on the Mac Pros. But I’m not privy to all of the sfw/hdw problems that might be involved. But OpenCL support is an indication of the commitment to the Mac in my opinion. Maybe it is in the works. They had basically given up the Mac space to FCP7 previous to FCPX, and concentrated on the PC market. I know they can see the market potential. Also have given some share to Avid recently, (I was their exclusive dealer here in Hawaii for almost 7 years) which according to reports performs very well on the Mac. I have to say Adobe appears to be listening and their reps are responsive. But actions speak louder than words. Personally, I will be upgrading to 6.0, as I am a one man band, and the upgrade is usually much less expensive than the full package. If only for the Nikon support, which was broken in 5.5. I like the look of some of the new features, warp stabilizer, etc. But display card support and playback performance is where 6.0 will be judged. Just my opinion. They’ve done away with video card specific playback timelines, which may help. If I had 10 seats to fill, I would wait for the demo version and try it before making a decision. A PC is not in my future. Right now I’m using PP/AE 5.0,5.5 for effects and color correction, doing cross converts on FCP7/AJA (2 systems) and finishing in ProRes on Media 100 Suite 2.1 (highly under-rated and worth a look at specs or free demo). But it would sure be great to simplify things. At least it looks as if 5.0/5.5 will come down to 6.0 for me. Sorry for the long response.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1, Premiere Pro 5.0 and 5.5, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe -
Thanks for sharing that Jim.
It should help to know that Adobe is “working on it” as far as supporting other
Radeon chipsets. That was quoted from an Adobe programmer on the RED forum.
There was a rather loud complaint there too for wider OpenCL support of Radeon cards.
And rightfully so!They were a bit short on time to implement everything they wanted to with the reworking
of speedgrade and encore 64-bit rewrite and all the user request changes to premiere.I only hope these updates are implemented in a free update and not a charged CS 6.5 upgrade.
I have a Quadro 4000 and for what it’s worth, every penny of the $ 800 I paid was
money well spent. The ability to key out greenscreen with Ultrakeyer and watch it playback
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I was lucky enough to be given a sneak peak of CS6. I own the Mac Pro listed below. I can tell you its runs great. The new Adobe Transmit allows me to run client sessions with an external monitor using REGULAR sequences using CUDA. I haven’t had any crashes yet. Dynamic link is rock solid now. Sorry Jim, my hands on experience differs from your speculative one. Your experience of CS6 will be a result of how well your computer utilizes the MPE. My old Mac Pro shines .
Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
Mac Pro 3,1
8 core
10.7.3
Nvidia Quadro 4000
24 gigs ram
Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
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Thanks Tom, that is encouraging.
Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta LLC -
Mine runs fine on the Nvidia GTX-285 I have. No bad experience there. I’m referring to Mac Pro supplied Radeon 5870 high end OpenCL card which 6.0 does not support. I’m saying it should if they can support other OpenCL chipsets. You would not get the same playback with the 5870 you get with your Quadro. I don’t need first hand experience to know that. Hope they are working on it and we don’t have to pay for it with a .5 as we are having to pay again to get Nikon support back.
Jim Wiseman
Sony PMW-EX1,Pana AJ-D810 DVCPro, DVX-100, Nikon D7000, Final Cut Studio 2 and 3, Media 100 Suite 2.1, Premiere Pro 5.0 and 5.5, AJA ioHD, AJA Kona LHi, Avid MC, Hexacore MacPro 3.33 Ghz 24Gb RAM GTX-285 120GB SSD, Macbook Pro 17″ 2011 2.2 Ghz Quadcore i7 8Gb SSD, G5 Quadcore PCIe
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