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  • Quick way to encode master quality files out of premiere on a mac?

    Posted by Matthew Woods on April 16, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Hi folks,

    I am trying to find a high quality format for mastering that renders quickly out of Premiere/Media Encoder on a mac. I am rendering from a 8 core hyperthreaded mac pro. H264 and Mpeg2 render settings seem to leverage all of my processors and render my sequence out in about 2 hours. Anything else that I’ve tried doesn’t seem to crank my processors at all and take 8+ hours. My rendered premiere files need to be piped through an After Effects project then compressed for final delivery later, so I would prefer a less lossy codec than H264 for my Premiere render to avoid compounding compression artifacts.

    Thanks,

    -Matt

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    Matthew Woods replied 14 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Chris Tompkins

    April 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    Your just not going to get it quicker….

    So, what is your final delivery???

    If you are re-rendering thru AE, then choose 10bit uncompressed and let it go overnight.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Matthew Woods

    April 16, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    The premiere sequence is 2048×768 resolution. Final output is 2 1024×768 h264 files that are playing on synced bright-sign roku players that are projection mapped onto an uneven surface. The After Effects project splits the 2048×768 premiere file into the two halves, and applies slight mesh-warping to correct differences between our original editing template, and the actual projected installation.

    I’ve pretty much given up on using quicktime export from premiere. Its slow and has occasionally crashed on heavy complicated projects. H264 mp4s on the other hand render magnificently. It drives me nuts that I can encode a complicated lossey format like H264 so quickly and painlessly, but not a lossless format which should be much less work for the computer. We have a bit of a tight deadline so rendering overnight doesn’t give us much leeway if something goes wrong.

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  • Chris Tompkins

    April 16, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Can’t you dino-link from the APP sequence to AE, so no double rendering?
    Just render out of AE?

    I find the Adobe Production Bundle to be slow on Mac, I don’t why, it’s a real shame. I hope V.6 provides solutions.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Matthew Woods

    April 16, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    First thing I tried. It doesn’t work because we have AE comps dynamically linked into the Premiere sequence. Even with a completely separate AE project for our final output, the dynamic link doesn’t seem to like having an AE comp inside a Premiere sequence inside an AE comp. Too bad, cause it would save us one render in our pipeline.

    I know windows premiere can export uncompressed AVIs. That might have worked well for us, but the mac version doesn’t do it. I hate windows, but our next edit suite might end up needing to be that… after we just finished getting the rest of the office converted to mac. 😛 Keeping fingers crossed for CS6.

    -Matt

    Need a quick break from motion graphics?
    Try my game Constellation at:
    https://www.paperdragongames.com

  • Jeff Brown

    April 17, 2012 at 12:59 am

    From my testing with AE, the fastest in/out format is uncompressed TIFF or DPX file sequences. Very close is compressed TIFF. PNG is considerably slower in and out. QTime is probably the slowest (depending on codec).

    -Jeff

  • Angelo Lorenzo

    April 17, 2012 at 1:43 am

    I’d lean more towards image sequences like DPX or TIFF. Nice think is at least TIFF can be color managed and if there is a render error, you only kill one frame and not the entire video if you were going out to, say, Quicktime.

  • Matthew Woods

    April 17, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    We ended up doing an overnight render with AJA 10 bit Uncompressed Quicktime codec. I did a little test with TIFF Sequences, is there anyway to enable lzw compression on Tiff sequence rendering from Premiere/Media encoder? I couldn’t find a checkbox for it. There are a lot of large areas of black in this video that would have losslessly compressed out if I could do LZW compression.

    Thanks,

    -Matt

    Need a quick break from motion graphics?
    Try my game Constellation at:
    https://www.paperdragongames.com

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