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Retaining quality of 26 gig project on one DVD
I am VERY flame-worthy as I am very new so have mercy please.
I shot a 3 hour event on 2 cameras. Edited it all just the way I like it (and quite nice I must say). I exported the media using the “Match Sequence settings” feature (which honestly was the only one that seemed to produce a final product that retained the quality I wanted to keep) but the resulting final file was 26 gigs! Of course Adobe Encore tries to do me a favor (which I appreciate in this case) of trying to fit it on one DVD. The resulting DVD is… ok. If I were the client I wouldn’t be happy. My client would probably be forgiving, but I really worked hard on getting all the noise on the video reduced to look nice and as a result in the lowered quality, all that work doesn’t show through.
I tried taking the 26 gig file, putting it in a Premiere project timeline and exporting IT as a H.264 (a file less than 5 gigs) but that quality ended up being worse than the DVD I made with the compressed 26 gig file.
I would really like to keep this a one DVD project. To meet my pricing and packaging needs/availability.
Is there a format I can use to retain the quality of this almost 3 hour project?
I am sorry for my lack of terminology. I’ve kind of learned all this stuff on my own.
Thanks in advance.
Jay -
7 Replies
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3 hours of video (timeline) will not hold on a regular dvd.
Might want to use a double layer.
Or use some thing like DVD shrink or DVD rebuilder to get it to fit.
Dont use match sequence settings might end up with the wrong codec.
Use a preset or set every manually. Export directly to mpeg2-dvd or use DL.
What is the source footage.———————————————–
Adobe Certified Expert Premiere Pro
Adobe Community Professional -
Hi Jay,
3 hours on a single DVD is “very” long. Commercial DVDs over 2 hours usually use dual layers to fit more content, and they often start at resolutions around 4k.
The consumer version of dual layer is not very reliable in my opinion. There are no other options for DVD compression, Mpeg2 is it. You can use a bit rate calculator to figure out optimal settings.
H.264 is not an option for DVDs, it will not play in standard DVD players (with exceptions).
Youtube now offers long form content on some accounts, it may be worth pitching as well.
Vince Becquiot
Kaptis Studios
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Ah well,
At a pinch go to Blu-Ray if you can, it will retain all the quality ? But, I have never tried it, except normal 1920 x 1080p direct to Blu-Ray ?Use a BD-RE if it does not work ?
Freelance Imaging & Video
AUSTRALIA -
You must reconcile the quality considerations against the technical capacity. My best solution when facing this quandary is to segment the long show onto multiple disks of uniform highest possible quality and package the show as a multi-disk set, a boxed presentation.
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Use Adobe Dynamic Link to bring your Premiere project directly into Encore so you’re not having to render out of Premiere first – let Encore do the work and encode your video into a Blu-Ray specific format:
https://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WSbaf9cd7d26a2eabf53ab041041081290f-7fe8.html
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Hi Jay,
I think the thread got off track and went towards Blu-ray, which of course would be the easy solution but sounds like you need DVD for your delivery. For that matter, we don’t even know if you shot in HD or SD, so what was the source footage? Knowing this will affect output instructions.
In Adobe Media Encoder, you MUST select “MPEG-2 for DVD” and then an appropriate preset, such as “NTSC widescreen high quality”, after which you can tweak the settings.
As discussed, no matter what you do, because of the high-compression rate, the DVD will not look the greatest, you really should go for a two-disc set. If you must use one DVD, then use 2-pass VBR encoding with the average data rate set to “3” and that should fit the DVD.
I’ve actually done projects this long and they were not bad really, but consisted of talking-head type of stuff which compresses easily. Video with a lot of motion and detail will fall apart though at such a low data rate.
If going for the two-disc set, then compress at “6” using CBR at 90 minutes each disc and you will have a decent quality.
If you shot interlaced HD (1080i), then check the “Maximum Render Quality” button at bottom of AME window to get best downscaling. Also, 1080i uses Upper Field interlacing, but DVD default is lower – then change Field Order to UPPER. If source was Progressive, then use Progressive.
In any event, before spending a ton of render time, I would export a few short sample clips and burn them to DVD to view before committing to a workflow. You could do the 2-pass encode at 3, and the CBR at 6, and burn clips both to one disc for comparison of playback quality.
Thanks
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers -
These are VERY helpful forums with NO flamers … unlike the Adobe forums, thanks all!
I shot in HD but am producing a SD DVD.
For cost purposes I am keeping it a 1 DVD set.
My brother, who is also a videographer, came by and did EXACTLY what Jeff suggested… use 2-pass VBR encoding with the average data rate set to “3”, etc…
The quality is, of course, still not as good as the original, but at least 5 times better than the first DVD I made.
THanks all, these forums really are helpful!
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