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  • Strange motion artefact

    Posted by Nathan Parker on October 19, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Im having a problem with a video I’ve been working on, but I cant see it on my system, or on my phone, or on many other friends lap tops or desk tops, but on some machines there is, what I think is, judder. It looks kind of like a flickering of horizontal bars of the image doubling almost like something you might see if you filmed an led monitor.

    Any ideas on what it could be to help me track down a solution?

    Thanks,
    Nathan

    Kevin Monahan replied 14 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Chris Tompkins

    October 19, 2011 at 11:34 am

    How bout some details?
    Did you shoot interlaced?
    Are you viewing this on an ext. video monitor?

    Clip codec/framerate/size?
    Sequence codec/framerate?
    Camera used?

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Nathan Parker

    October 19, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Hi Chris,

    I had posted about this problem a few weeks ago, and while the post had many views there were no responses. I had included all the info, but thought maybe it was overload, and after waiting with no response on any forum i’ve posted I thought i’d try a bare bones description of the problem.

    I have posted the original post below.

    Thanks!
    Nathan

    Hello,

    I’ve edited a video in PPro CS5 with footage from a Pentax K-7 HD DSLR. I dont have a lot of experience with HD DSLR footage, but I have worked with 7D footage with no problems at all.

    The problem I am having is that when I export the video using H.264 everything looks great on my Mac Book Pro. When I upload it to Vimeo and watch it it still looks great, and it looks fine when I play it on my Iphone 3GS through the Vimeo app., but every other computer Ive watched it on or had co workers watch it on there are strange glitches that are very obvious. It looks like horizontal bars, not like you would see with interlaced footage, but horizontal bars that look like the shot is arranged incorrectly or something to that effect and it increases as motion increases.

    I have made several time lines with different properties, and exported each of them out a few different ways. Only two of the options show up fine for me no matter how I view the footage, unless its on another computer. The rest are bad for me and everyone else

    Just to put it out there, I know it is not an internet connection problem.

    Here are the footage settings:

    AVI
    1280 X 720 (1.0)
    30fps
    progressive
    1m20s
    32000 HZ
    Stereo

    These are the source/ outputs that have been successful for me to view on web, hard drive, and Iphone but not for anyone else at all.

    Source:
    used preset under DSLR heading for 720p 60

    1280X720
    59.94 fps
    progressive
    1m20s
    48000HZ
    stereo

    Output:
    NTSC
    1280X720
    29.97fps
    progressive
    AAC
    192kbps
    48KHz
    stereo
    VBR 2 pass
    Target 6.00
    Max 10.00 Mbps

    the following setting are the first settings i used with successful viewing on my end

    Source: just set timeline using HDV 720p 30fps preset
    1280X720
    29.97 fps
    progressive
    1m20s
    48000HZ
    stereo

    Output:
    NTSC
    1280X720
    29.97fps
    progressive
    AAC
    192kbps
    48KHz
    stereo
    VBR 1 pass
    Target 6.00
    Max 10.00 Mbps

    render at Max depth and Max render quality checked for every attempt

    have also tried timeline settings to match footage but when i went to export footage it went to export for Iphone…

    I have Production Premium CS5
    my scratch disks are set to my external HD

    I use a Macbook Pro

    Model Name: MacBook Pro
    Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,2
    Processor Name: Intel Core i7
    Processor Speed: 2 GHz
    Number of Processors: 1
    Total Number of Cores: 4
    L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
    L3 Cache: 6 MB
    Memory: 4 GB
    Boot ROM Version: MBP81.0047.B1E
    SMC Version (system): 1.69f1
    Serial Number (system): C02FFLB6DF8V
    Hardware UUID: AAD68C33-11C8-5F01-BF34-5694A2EC0E3E
    Sudden Motion Sensor:
    State: Enabled

    Thanks a lot!!! Ive tried to give all the info I can think of.
    i dont understand why I can see fine and others cant.

  • Kevin Monahan

    October 20, 2011 at 12:42 am

    Try a sequence where you drag and drop one of the clips to the New Item button. This ensures that source and sequence settings match identically.

    The other thing I would suspect is the original Pentax footage. I’ve never heard of anyone working with this camera so I am not sure if there may be issues with it.

    Kevin Monahan
    Sr. Content and Community Lead
    Adobe After Effects
    Adobe Premiere Pro
    Adobe Systems, Inc.
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  • Nathan Parker

    October 20, 2011 at 2:48 am

    [Kevin Monahan] “Try a sequence where you drag and drop one of the clips to the New Item button. This ensures that source and sequence settings match identically.”

    I did try this, but when I went to export and matched the comp settings it said it was going to export as iphone/mobile device etc. I thought that must be wrong so I canceled it.

    [Kevin Monahan] “The other thing I would suspect is the original Pentax footage. I’ve never heard of anyone working with this camera so I am not sure if there may be issues with it.”

    I did hear of some problems with this Pentax with CS4. I read that it was using an older codec and that Premiere Pro CS4 wasn’t compatible with the native footage. I read that CS5 works fine with it though. Also if it is the camera, why would it just play strangely on certain devices?

    Thanks a lot for your input, I really appreciate it!

    -Nathan

  • Kevin Monahan

    October 20, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    iPhone? That doesn’t sound right. Can you change it to H.264?
    Yes, it appears you camera records AVI files and most DSLRs record H.264 files so it is rather different.

    Kevin Monahan
    Sr. Content and Community Lead
    Adobe After Effects
    Adobe Premiere Pro
    Adobe Systems, Inc.
    Follow Me on Twitter!

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