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Unscrewing Myself From Premiere’s Replace with AE Comp Feature?
Hi CC,
In my naive venture I bought into the idea I could use this feature to simply “export my video” to After Effects.
It turns out the feature did a grand job of removing my ability to know when I punched in the video, it wasn’t something I want to do, and now I have to re-sync up the take by eyeballing it.
Please tell me this wasn’t what Adobe had in mind because it’s not cool at all. I don’t want to have to sort my scaling and keying effects in between two programs in spite of losing in/out point with my video. I would need an assistant (and therapist) to log all that go between. I must have a complete misunderstanding of workflow with these applications.
I will simply size work area and hit Apple-M from now on. My bad.
Thanks for reading.
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5 Replies
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Hi Max…
Your description is a little vague.
Not sure of what you mean by “when I punched in the video”?
It sounds to me like when you move between PPro and AE, you have a clip that is perhaps the correct duration, but it’s lost it’s proper IN point?
Is this what you mean?
If so, I have experienced this in previous version of PPro/AE using HDV media.
What flavor of source are you using?
Alex
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Hi Alex,
Sorry if the description is a bit hard to understand. My problem was that I tried the “Replace with After Effects Composition” function by right-clicking on a clip.
I figured “Wow, this dynamic link stuff is great!”
Wrong.
Once I selected that option the clip in question now has no memory of in/out points and if the AEP that I’m supposed to create is a flop I’m completely without a video reference.
Additionally, in terms of workflow I don’t see how this makes any sense if you add any motion to the video in Premiere. If I’m moving this video into AE to key something out I don’t want the comp moving around etc.
So now I’m stuck with a clip scaling etc. with no video source going the wrong direction in terms of workflow.
Thank goodness I had a copy of the clip in another sequence within the Premiere file or I’d have to eyeball edit the whole over again from scratch.
Obviously somebody thought this option was a good idea, but with all the pop-up warning Premiere provides for video format this one took me by surprise and was a one-way street. I must have video workflow completely wrong because I don’t see the point in this function. In further updates, it would really speed things up if they had an “Export Clip” function. That’s all I was trying to do. Not replace my clip with a completely new file that no longer has video source reference at all (Which is just awesome the way Panasonic labels files).
I hope all this makes sense. It’s really just a gripe. If there’s a rants and raves section in creative cow I would’ve posted this there. I just have to admit that I’m scared to try any other hip new function in Premiere as I’m afraid it’ll just cost me more time.
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Hi Max…
Well….you certainly did jump right in with both feet.
If you want to use this workflow, as a suggestion, you might work from a duplicate seqeucne once you start moving into AE.
But there are a few paths to get material from PPro to AE and the replace method does have some caveats.
Dynamic link workflow is only dynamic in one direction. The comps created in AE are Dynmaic within PPro, meaning that any changes in AE will be reflected in PPro. The Replace fucntion is merely to consolidate a number of steps in sending material from PPro to AE.
But let’s say we take a step back and look at the manual way this could be accomplished….
1) If you select one or more clips on the Ppro timeline, and select copy (of hit ctrl/cmd C)
2) Change over to AE
3) Make Comp that is the same resolution as your PPro timline and open it.
4) Then in AE select Paste (or hit ctrl/cmd V)
5) Now the clips (as trimmed and edited in PPro) will be set up as layers in AE. And they will be edited in time at their positions in time equivlanet to where there were in PPro. An important feature of this is that if you have already done any scaling and repo work in PPro, those will be translated to AE transforms so the keyframes are available in AE.
6) using the steps above….you PPro sequence is left AS IS and you now can do FX versions in AE.
7) Depending on where in time the clips land in AE you may want to set the work area and trim the comp to get rid of excess blank space from time zero.To get a Dynamic link version of your AE Comp back to PPro:
1) Name your comp in the AE proj window
2) Save the AE Project (where you can find it easily, and where it’s organized neatly with other project assets)
3) Go back to PPro and choose t File > Adobe Dynamic Link > Import After Effects Composition
4) Navigatge to where you saved your AE Project, choose it, then choose your comp from that project.
5) Now you’ll have your AE COMP in PPro dymaniclly linked….if you change and resave the AE Project, the comp will update in PPro.
6) You could cut this into your existing timeline and also choose to mute/disable the original source media. that way your clips will still be intact.Does that help at all?
Alex
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Hi Alex,
Oh my gosh, so helpful! Thanks! I knew you could copy/paste between Illustrator/Photoshop/Flash, but I had no idea you could with PPro and AE. That in a nutshell really helps because I didn’t really want to export either because I was concerned about generation loss. I just want to copy the reference really, not do a bunch of rendering and formatting.
I’ve actually begun a double-timeline workflow within Premiere already as I like to view my edits all as just one clip. So I’ll open a new sequence and then just drag the work sequence into it. I’ve had to do that for aspect ratio cropping and frame rate changes.
One thing I wish that PPro would do is let you change the timebase after you build a sequence. But considering it lets you edit at 15 fps unlike FCPro, I should probably just be thankful.
One benefit to having the physical copy versus downloading it is you get the manuals. I don’t do well without an index.
Thanks for the guidance Alex, it’s appreciated!
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Glad to help!
🙂
Alex
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