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Exporting from Prp
When exploring and using the Encoder, I dont see the large variety of presets like Compressor has that indicate their use (i.e. DVD-fastest encode, Web-H.264 LAN, Streaming, Iphone, YouTube, Playstation 3, Vimeo, Webcasting,etc. Any suggestions?
Tom Daigon
Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
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Hi Tom –
One thing to bear in mind with your workflow, and you may already be doing this, is to output one, highest rez master from PPro, or AE, and then use that as your master encoder file in Media Encoder.
For some reason, and this may have changed as of CS5 and CS5.5, the quality of the encoding engines in AE and PPro are not as high as in Media Encoder. I don’t know why this would be, and I hope others will weigh in with the facts (why or why I’m wrong), but I’ve always had better results doing it this way. It also gives me one, finished, archive master to burn to DVD and put offsite.
That said, it also makes it easier to track one “Master Master” file, than multiple masters. Much of my work involves outputting one 1920 x 1080 master, which never sees the light of day, then encoding in Media Encoder for the various web flavors the client wants on the website, on their iTouch and iPad devices, etc.. I can import one copy of the master, duplicate it in the queue, and choose all of my output specs. I then run the queue, and go get some more coffee – although most of the time the renders are so quick that they’re done before I get back.
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
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Thanks Joe. Yes that is the work flow I always used with FCP. I would create a high res Prores master, archive that and use it to generate any various kinds of copies as need.
Ive read recently (something by Todd K. I think) that talked the two ways to export from PrP.
1. Select export and create right out of PrP which uses the GPU if you have one. And ties up PrP until its done,
2. Select export then the Queue which uses the CPU and frees up PrP .The interfaces on both lead me to guess they are both using the Adobe Media Encoder, but I could be wrong about that.
Tom Daigon
Avid DS / PrP / After Effects Editor
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It would seem really odd to me that all of the Adobe products that render don’t use the AME, but I know I read somewhere on the COW that the render output from PPro and AE were inferior to the process of rendering a master from PPro or AE, and then rendering the various deliverables from AME. I’ll have to do some backtracking and see what I can find in the archives.
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
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Premiere Pro uses Adobe Media Encoder for all video exports. The two methods that Tom described basically determine whether a) the main Premiere Pro application does the rendering of frames to then hand off to AME or b) AME calls a “headless” version of Premiere Pro to do the rendering phase.
After Effects uses AME for _some_ video exports, depending on format. Details are here.
After Effects excels at rendering. AME excels at encoding/compressing. If you want to use both program to their fullest potential, render out a losslessly encoded movie from After Effects and compress that within AME. Watch folders in AME are great for that, making the second step automatable.
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Hi Todd,
I will be moving my edit system to a brand new PC tomorrow or the next day, so this will be a moot point, but in the last week of editing on PP on a mac, I noticed there are far less codec options than in compressor, for example WMV. I could not find any way to render a WMV file from AME but do it all the time from compressor.Even more bizarre, I selected Quicktime as the Format, and could not find all the PNG, Animation etc variations of MOV files, just DV!? Very surprising on a mac!
I ended up rendering 20Mbps mp4 file and converting that to WMV in compressor, which is definitely not ideal.
Is there really no way to render to all those MOV formats and WMV using PP/AME on a Mac?
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WMV export from Adobe software is only possible on Windows.
Regarding your QuickTime strangeness: Do you have QuickTime 7 on the computer? Adobe software relies on QuickTime 7 (not QuickTime X) for QuickTime features.
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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
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[Todd Kopriva] “Regarding your QuickTime strangeness: Do you have QuickTime 7 on the computer? Adobe software relies on QuickTime 7 (not QuickTime X) for QuickTime features.”
Hi Todd,
I do have QT7 pro… used to have QTX but installed QT7 from the fcp installation disk a few weeks ago, but have always had all the options in compressor…
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Todd –
Thanks for correcting my mis-information. I know I had read it somewhere (the whole thing about rendering directly from PPro or AE being inferior), but it never made sense that the same engine wouldn’t be driving all the products.
So there is no reason (other than the convenience of queuing and more presets to use either rendering directly from AE or PPro, or rendering a master from the above, then using the Media Encoder? Thanks.
Joe Bourke
Owner/Creative Director
Bourke Media
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Mark,
Can you post a screenshot of exactly what you’re seeing, so that I can get a better sense of what’s going on with these missing codecs?
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Todd Kopriva, Adobe Systems Incorporated
Technical Support for professional video software
After Effects Help & Support
Premiere Pro Help & Support
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