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  • “Collapse Multicam” or Similar for XML Export to FCP

    Posted by Ryan Patch on May 22, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Hello,

    I’ve been using a workflow for a while where I edit in PPro and then export an XML for clients to re-link media on an FCP system. It’s worked beautifully so far.

    However, I used multicam to edit a recent project, and the multicam isn’t translating very well – many problems. I would love to find a feature similar to “Collapse Multicam” in FCP, or perhaps some other way to make sure the Multicam translates right as I open it in FCP. Any ideas?

    Thanks!

    Nicolas Duchon replied 13 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Sean Morris

    November 13, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Hi Ryan ~

    I’m having the same issue with exporting multicams to a variety of different programs. Would love to find a way to “collapse” or “flatten” a multicam in Premiere Pro. Did you ever find a way to do this?

    Thanks,
    Sean

  • Ryan Patch

    November 13, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Nope, unfortunately it doesn’t exist. XML formats don’t support multicam (at least the way Premiere writes it) and there’s no “collapse”, unfortunately. I had to rebuild my timeline from scratch. Adobe seems committed to being interchangeable (as seen by their partnership with Automatic Duck,) so I’m hoping that in CS6 we’ll see a fix to this. Would be great to see it sooner, though!

    Not being able to edit using multicam when I know I’ll have to pass the project to a colorist via XML is a HUGE drag.

    My workaround has been to drop the multicam cut nested sequence into a duplicate of the source sequence, and then lining up the cuts so it was easy to duplicate it. Sucks, but it saves a bit of time.

    God speed.

  • Sean Morris

    November 14, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Thanks Ryan, I will head over to the Adobe “Request a Feature” page and leave one now.

    I found a temp way to get around this in After Effects. Since that program actually imports the entire nested sequence, you can delete the other shots in the multicam nest until just the shot you want remains. Of course this worked for me because there were just a couple of multicam shots I was affecting… if you needed to do an entire sequence it would be an insanely complicated and time consuming method.

    Thanks again,
    Sean

  • Nicolas Duchon

    August 20, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Actually there should be a way to easily obtain a “collapsed” XML from a PP CS6 Multicam XML, as all the needed information is already there and -almost- correctly ordered. Each muticam sequence <clipitem> points to a <sequence> wich in turns points to another <clipitem> which then point to the correct <file>, but it seems that no XML reading application is able to decypher this nested hierarchy. The first <clipitem> does not have the correct <masterclipid>, <name> and <duration> but those are found either in the second <clipitem> or in the subsequent <file>. So again everything is there, just written in the wrong way.

    I was able to turn a very simple (3 camera angles, 6 edits, no audio) multicam XML into a “collapsed” XML by manually copying, pasting, moving and erasing values from the XML. So it works but it’s obviously impossible to use for a real world project. Re-editing again as Ryan did would be hundreds of time faster than manually editing an XML file.

    There is probably a way to make it automatic but this is way beyond my knowledge.

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