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cs5, 7D, and EX1 – major problems!
I switched to a Premiere Pro because my editor was ranting and raving about CS5 and the native editing for 7D and EX1. We are using a mac 2.26 dual quad (w/ snow leopard). Having almost finished editing an hour long documentary and now Premiere Pro is completely out of whack. It keeps re-writing the metadata attached to the clips. All the EX1 clips are there but they are not showing the correct footage for the clip. All clips were brought into the bin first. Then brought to timeline. After the editing for several days Premiere Pro started lagging. We restarted the computer but which made everything work faster but it re-wrote the metadata or indexed the clips wrong. The clips on the timeline have diagonal bars going through them (and no the clips are not just LOCKED). There is no option to re-connect media like in FCP (very annoying since all the info for clips on the timeline is correct (in FCP all I would have to do is re-connect media). I cleaned the media once and it helped with half of footage briefly. As soon as I closed PPro and re-opened file PPro started re-writing all the clips incorrectly. So for example where a cutaway of a bird should be PPro makes part of an interview from another clip play even though if I open the clips properties all the correct metadata is there…it just won’t read it.
I tried the export XML (without ‘auto’ option like on Adobe site but no luck). The XML keeps starting every clip from the beginning of the source material clip. For 7D and EX1
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Was there a crash? Did you move media to a different drive? Is there some media that has identical clip names from a camera data card maybe?
PPro has the ability to relink media…it does it by itself…but it sounds like a directory changed structure or the media cache is corrupt. PPro sounds like it senses that the media has changed somehow and is updating the metadata to get its bearings… This is unusual for PPro on the PC side, but I guess I don’t know what the issue might be on the Mac side.
I’d start PPro in a new project, and go to Premiere Pro >Preferences>Media There will be a “Clean” button in there for the Media Cache database…push it.
Then I’d probably start the machine fresh, open a brand new PPro project and then import the screwy project into it…it may take a while as it will have to rebuild the data base… Hopefully you didn’t try to do a lot of rearranging in the corrupt project as that wouldn’t help things…but give that a shot.
Good luck with it.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
i would delete all the extra folders and files that premiere creates and let it rebuild the project folders.
Or another safer way of doing it would be to move your video files, not previews etc, to a new directory along with your premiere project file only and then resync them when it asked for where the files are when opening it for the first time . It will then rebuild all the other silly files and folders that these programs make nowadays.
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thanks for advice y’all…
Some files are named similar names (348_002_01 and 348_002_02) but if PPro can’t distinguish between the two then PPro is fundamentally flawed. I’ve clean cache about twenty times…moved file structures and let it rebuild project about eight…even moved similar named files to different drives and let PPro rebuild…nothing…
PPro does not reconnect media like FCP…it conforms to media by indexing…so if I have a clip that starts at 1:14 and ends at 2:20 I could reconnect this time parameter to any clip I wanted…even if the reconnected clip was shorter and only went up to 2:10 FCP would leave a blank space in the clip on timeline for 10 frames…the timeline clips data stayed same and I could reconnect any clip to that data…
In PPro indexing is different…the footage of clips on the timeline on are screwy but the data on those clips is correct (and the metadata on the clips is correct…I click on clips and it is identifying the clips correctly but the source monitor does not show the correct clip)…as soon as PPro indexes or conforms the project not only are the clips in the messed up project screwy but all other saved versions get screwed up (even the very first project created a month ago that I have not touched since)…
I’ve moved everything around, cleaned caches, restarted my computer, removed xmp cfa and other index data to no avail…the problem is in the conforming process it keeps rewriting stuff incorrectly…and as I said I can’t reconnect media…i can conform clips in Bin or Match Source etc but that takes the clips in the timeline and makes them play the correct clip but it erases all of the clips time data so every clip I reconnect it restarts the newly connected clip at 0:00 instead of say 1:14…so this is absolutely pointless in my book…might as well start from scratch…
thanks again guys
and anyone out there using RED camera, P2, or EX1 files for larger projects BEWARE…PPro has worked very well for smaller corporate videos and commercials (it is fast as hell)…but for larger projects the indexing becomes a major issue…I would say completely and definitely not worth the risk as of yet
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“PPro has the ability to relink media…it does it by itself…”
this is the problem I am speaking about…it ONLY does it by itself so since we all know how reliable computers are why did they not allow human control for these kinds of things…always better safe than sorry
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[Chris Aaron] “”PPro has the ability to relink media…it does it by itself…”
this is the problem I am speaking about…it ONLY does it by itself so since we all know how reliable computers are why did they not allow human control for these kinds of things…always better safe than sorry”
LOL!…because Avid and FCP users have been screaming that PPro’s media management is no good because it isn’t like their systems…
It used to be manual…and Adobe got no end of grief for it.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Huzzah!
Nothing was working… until I deleted an imported project within the main project… now it works… just one file is buggy and I can work around it…
anyone encounter this weird phenomenon again just check and see if you have an imported project within another
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So you have some sort of corruption in your media files or that project file…
Your warning to “…anyone out there using RED camera, P2, or EX1 files for larger projects BEWARE…I would say completely and definitely not worth the risk as of yet”
…might to be premature?
I edit P2 and EX files on loooong timelines with no issues and I’ve recently started with DSLR also with no issues…been handling RED R3D since CS4.
I would be safe by doing the following:
Go to Users/-name-/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Common and just empty that folder entirely…it will all be rebuilt but there is almost certainly some corrupted material in there… I’d also relaunch PPro with the ‘Alt” key down to dump the prefs file.
With that much craziness, I’d make sure it’s cleaned up.
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Well. It did it again. And I was at the end of film. It seems to keep rewriting the EX1 files no matter what I do. When I pull in some files with media browser it reads them correctly until I close the project and reopen. Then it indexes the clips wrong (even after I have completely deleted any .cfa, .pek, .mscb, or .xmb file (everything) the project reindexes but keeps rewriting the clips incorrectly. It then reads them in the media browser incorrectly so if I try and “make media offline and re-link” the footage it reads the incorrect data from media browser. Though XDCAM Transfer and FCP read all files correctly with nothing out of the ordinary. The weird thing is that every thirtieth attempt at opening the file…the files are miraculously read correctly…so now that is what I am having to resort to…keep opening the project (sometimes for twenty minutes or more) until the program works…
So not only does the auto-index prevent me from finalizing this project but I can’t render off uncompressed pieces of footage in HD because there is no way to do it PPro. How are professionals supposed to use this program if they can not ultimately make a final master copy of the film in Uncompressed HD (for film transfer or color correction or archiving)?
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