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  • Can’t access audio in timeline to edit it

    Posted by Robin Belzeski on May 25, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    Halloooo,
    I’m on my first project in Premiere Pro (I’ve been using FCP for years) and for the most part it’s been a fairly smooth transition. Except for one thing. An incredibly annoying thing. I can’t click on the audio and do anything with it. Can’t trim it, can’t access it for anything at all, except for putting keyframes in it for volume changes.

    I’m talking about audio that’s recorded with video, by the way. I’ve unlinked it, I’ve un-synced it, I’ve spoken kindly to it and called it bad names, I’ve looked at every page on the Adobe site that has anything to do with audio in Premier Pro (CS4) and I can’t figure out what little, silly bit of information I’m missing that would make it all come together.

    I can click on the video and trim it or razor it to make changes to the audio vicariously. If I unlink the video and audio, I can do stuff to the video without affecting the audio. But the audio remains untouchable. The name of the clip is faded, like an inaccessible menu item.

    I do know how to extract the audio to edit in Soundbooth, but after I put it back in the timeline, it’s still inaccessible.

    Anyone have any ideas?????????????? Thanks So much!

    Tom Kent replied 10 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    May 25, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Hi Robin,

    Is the track locked? Is is disabled? (icon on left side)

    Can you hear the track when you play it?

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Ann Bens

    May 25, 2010 at 9:50 pm

    On the left of the track there are some icons. Hover over them till one of them shows : Show Keyframes. Click on this icon and set it to Show Clip Volume.

  • Alex Udell

    May 25, 2010 at 10:40 pm

    Ann is correct….

    and this is another little vexing thing to editors from other systems.

    PPro (similar to avid) allows for volume (and other fx) keyframing on individual clips. In this case you will see the yellow volume on the audio tracks only present within the boundaries of the clips themselves.

    However, similar to the default behavior of FCP, it also allows for volume automation at the track level. When you are in this mode, you will notice the yellow volume key frame automation line runs continuously across the track entire track. It is in this mode PPro prohibits you from trimming audio.

    I got aggrivated by this a couple of versions ago, but once you know it….makes perfect sense….

    Why would you want both….if you have a particular audio event that has some quick dynamic changes within it…you can key frame at the clip level…then if you slide the clip around the timeline…the key frames stay with the event. However, you then have a secondary level of automation that allows the the track to fit into mix without having to deal with all the key frames of that particular event. (not to mention the sub groups available on the mixer itself. 🙂

    hope that erdiculously verbose answer puts the feature in context…

    🙂

    Alex

  • Robin Belzeski

    May 26, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Thank you!! You all rock on every available level. As well as a few levels that are unavailable until you click on an obscure icon and choose a seemingly unrelated option. 🙂

    I feel a bit dorky- I only controlled audio on a clip-by-clip basis in FCP, so it never occured to me there was any other way. HA!

    Thanks again!!!

  • Metta Xu

    December 11, 2011 at 3:41 pm

    I was facing the exact same problem and wasted a lotta time. Ann, your short and sweet solution saved us from further pain. God bless u!

  • Luke Frohling

    September 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!! The steps you listed …..” Hover over them till one of them shows : Show Keyframes. Click on this icon and set it to Show Clip Volume.”… worked like a charm!!

  • Anna Chiaretta

    June 24, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Does anyone have the problem where the yellow keyframe line won’t display for clip keyframing and only for the track level? It seems like a bug, and may require a fresh re-installation, but wondering if it is a known problem with a fix. it is driving me bats.

    thanks all

    VIDEO ARTIST AND TECHNICIAN

  • Tom Kent

    March 8, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    Thanks Ann, I recently starting using premiere pro after years using FCP. Had the same audio problem and this really helped fix it.

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