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Editing H.264 in Premiere CS3
I’m working on a project that involves footage with the following specs:
Quicktime H.264
720p
30fpsSpecifically, the footage was taken with a Canon SD780 point and shoot digital camera.
Currently, my project settings are:
HDV 720p
29.97fpsMy question is when I import and drop my footage in the time line “why do I have to render it” and “why does it take so long”?
Thanks in advance.
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10 Replies
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There are many flavors of H.264 and unfortunately, none are really editing friendly.
Your settings are also forcing a render to HDV which is also a complex process. You could setup a “Desktop” project in the General tap (CS4), and give it your exact project settings 1280×720 square pixels. Render times should improve.
The need to render also depends on your system specs. For HD footage, you may need at least a Quad Core machine to get realtime playback without rendering. I would also estimate a minimum of 6 Gigs or RAM depending on OS and Premiere version.
Vince Becquiot
Kaptis Studios
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Thanks a lot. Although I’m not new to this game, codecs are not my forte. Also I’m running a Dual-core MBP with 4GB of ram. Evidently, this isn’t enough?
I will explore different project settings. In the interim, I will do more research on H.264. In the past it has been a reliable format that I frequently use to export and have never really had issues editing with in FCP. Any recommendations on a better format?
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It used to be enough, but last time I tried running CS4 on our dual core laptop, things weren’t pretty with HD.
You could batch render to DV AVI and edit that way inside an HD project (using scale to frame, thanks to Jon Barrie for that tip :-), then replace with the original when you are done
Vince Becquiot
Kaptis Studios
San Francisco – Bay Area -
Duly noted and will do. Thanks again.
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->Vince
Could you please give further details on this method for editing
“..batch render to DV AVI and edit that way inside an HD project (using scale to frame,then replace with the original when you are done”
More specifically,how to replace DV footages by there HD “avatar”?
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You may have to put up with the long render times running into 4-5 hours or more(We are using the 5D mark II in full HD) for say 30 minutes of clips.Overnight the wait is worth it, and the Export to tape via a Canon HV 20 on to a Sony Bravia 46 ” is broadcast quality. Good luck. I agree mov H264 is not editing friendly ####
Even CS4 requires you to render and Vegas pro 9 is a problem .We use Premiere Pro 1.5.1 Cineform Upgrade and get first class results on 1080p with a Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz with 2 gb Ram (I am amazed), with trials of the newer products they do not appear to progressed very much
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I should start with the fact that batch rendering is only available in CS4, in CS3, you either put all your HD clips in a timeline or export one by one.
In CS4, open the Adobe Media Encoder and add all your HD clips, then export to DV AVI.
In Premiere, import these DV clips and start editing in an HD sequence matching your original clips.
When you are done, right click on the clips and “Replace Footage”
with the original HD files...,
Vince Becquiot
Kaptis Studios
San Francisco – Bay Area -
-> Vince
It seems to be simple to achieve.
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Using the render queue in after effects, I ran a batch export using several codecs. However, after importing them into premiere I still had to render; even DV AVI. I made several projects with different settings to no avail. I’m currently at a loss. What format can I possibly edit without rendering?
I thought I’d try one more thing. I digitized a standard definition Mini DV via “capture” and everything worked flawlessly. No Render. Perhaps my machine is too weak to handle HD after all?
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Good day, i am wondering how to edit in premiere cs4 or cs5 a avi file h.264 from the Benq DVM21 camcorder? ftp://files.benq.net/camera/datasheets/m21/m21.jpg
When i import the file by the media browser or just importing directly premiere open it just like avi audio file with no video on it, i really need to edit a entire videoclip that i shot with this camera so please how can i visualize the movie and audio with a real time playback for this kind of format i see a lot of people is complaining about this format in premiere, hope to have a quick answer!here are the specification on the properties of the video
File Path: C:\Users\Presentation\Desktop\december 23 2010\1-18 a.avi
Type: AVI Movie
File Size: 43.9 MB
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 1920
Frame Rate: 30.00
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz – 16 bit – Stereo
Project Audio Format: 44100 Hz – 32 bit floating point – Stereo
Total Duration: 00:00:27:05
Average Data Rate: 1.6 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0the computer specs that i am woking on
Windows 7 professional 64 bits
Intel® Core™ i7 processors
8 GB of RAM
1 tera RAID drive (2 hard drives 7200 rpm)
Nvidia Geforce 285 GTXi found some solutions to work with H.264 file on some forums
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/900429i tried the solutions to work with cineform and convert the files but it didn’t work because it said is not a compatible file, converting to DV AVI format is still being slow for playback.
The software that came with the camera TOTALMEDIA EXTREME2 has an editor on it and the it has real playback on real time but the editor is so basic and i need to make a music video and professional edits and effects, how can i see real playback on premiere with this files
i upload one file so you can download to see if that works in your computer and hope get a solution to get edit this videos
https://www.mediafire.com/?3724jwboge48kms
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